anons brother has some strong opinions

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• rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  OOP’s bro might actually explode if he ever learns about the Khrushchovka and how concrete prefab buildings solved the housing crisis in 1960s Europe.

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  • phuntis@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you can make tall buildings out of brick and poor people deserve nice homes too every time someone says hey living in one of those things is soul crushing and awful someone goes oh so you want people to be homeless no I want free housing for everyone and it to look good and not reaffirm the class and poverty of those who live in it

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    • rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did you run out of punctuation or something? Here, use some of mine: …,???

      Despite what some simple minds may think, residential buildings are not restricted to being either high density commie blocks or American cookie cutter suburban hellscapes. Medium-density townhouses are all over Europe, but the regressive bigots created zoning laws that made them illegal to build.

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    • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is nothing inherently soul-crushing about concrete architecture. Some of the most vibrant neighborhoods in the world (especially in tropical/storm-prone regions) are made from concrete. For example

      Also, in construction there is a saying: fast, cheap, good. Pick two.

      Government-constructed housing will always strive to be cheap. Neither autocrats nor voting tax payers want to spend more money than they have to on any given project. This doesn’t mean that they are always going to go with the absoulute cheapest option - but it does mean that there will always be a price constraint. And this is very legitimate, as any money spent on housing people is money not spent somewhere else - eg, replacing old sewer pipes, funding scientific research, health care, etc.

      Meanwhile, you want housing for people now. Ie, fast.

      And therefore, you are sacrificing “good”. And the least essential part of “good” is aesthetics.

      Demanding perfection is the surest path to failure due to analysis paralysis. This is essentially your tactic here - saying “I want X, and Y, and Z, and everything else is TERRIBLE.” A far better tactic is to say “what would be pretty good?”, and do that. Then once you have something that is pretty good, you say “okay, how can we make it better?”

      not reaffirm the class and poverty of those who live in it

      This will likely be quite difficult. Social strata try to distunguish themselves over time, and one of the ways they do this is via their housing - how it looks, where it is, the amenities it provides, etc. If you build government housing out of brick, in 10 years the middle class will be building with wood.

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    • abbotsbury@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      poor people deserve nice homes too

      Concrete makes a nice home

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• StrixUralensis@tarte.nuage-libre.fr ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I really want to say fake and gay but this cheks out so much for 4chan that it's surely real and gay (anon's brother loves to to smash but no woman was mentioned)

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  • Sv443@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    OOP and his brother are German so it checks out

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  • regdog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On the internet things can be fake and gay, and still be true.

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• mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t bring your brother to ex soviet countires then

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• BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But brutalism is awesome. I want to live in a square fortress of plain concrete.

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  • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Make it for two

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    • BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ideally a living space for like 5 would be nice. 3 at minimum to accommodate the family.

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• SomGye@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Valid as fuck

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wonder if he had the same hatred for cast-in-place concrete.

  I don’t like concrete blocks, nor bricks, when cast-in-place concrete is an option.

  If I could afford it, I’d build my house with cast-in-place concrete walls and floors, with the interior walls finished with wood studs and drywall. The problem is both cost, and finding an experienced crew to do the work. Some countries just don’t have contractors who know how to do it, and will only build concrete block walls.

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  • GraniteM@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Monolithic dome house! Been a fantasy of mine since college. Might be difficult to hang pictures on the walls, though.

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  • brachypelmide@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve always wondered, how do you cast concrete vertically? I’ve never really seen it being done, so maybe this is something obvious.

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    • tburkhol@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Build a form strong enough to hold the concrete, pour the concrete, take down the form. Essentially, you build two wooden walls, make the concrete wall between then, then remove the wooden walls. ICF lets you build the form like LEGO and leave it mostly in place after.

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• steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What has minecraft done to the kids?

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• lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Too bad I Loooove concrete!! I would so get in an autistic fight with this guy

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Brutal

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• alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Damn, concrete has enabled some of the beat moder ist architecture OAT

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• ddplf@szmer.info ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I absolutely get it

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• pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He’s right

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