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A warrant enables you to enter without the inhabitant’s permission, a vampire needs said permission to enter. There’s no reason to believe this would work.
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Submitted 1 day ago by blondebabe@reddthat.com to [deleted]
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Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 day ago
Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
You definitely bring it to the point here. “Can/Could” has two different meanings in this case (and many more generally).
Nobody can legally enter your house without permission. Vampires also additionally have a second restriction, they cannot physically enter your house without permission. A warrant removes the first restriction but not the second. A vampire policeman with a warrant can legally enter, but still not physically.
brap@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I reckon that depends on you. If you then invite them in because they have the warrant then yes, but if you decline they wouldn’t be able to force entry.
Dojan@pawb.social 1 day ago
Yeah, I wouldn’t say that a warrant is the same as an invite. Legally it allows them to enter, but I’m not convinced that the laws of magic bend to the laws of man.
SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a invite by the state ,who truely in all practical terms owns the house, to enter the house. They have the authority higher than that of the owner and are able to overrule them in decisions pertaining to access to the house.
ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
You can only invite the vampire in if you’re inside the house. If the judge signed the warrant while inside the house for some reason, the vampire could enter. But in the usual case where they were anywhere else, it wouldn’t count.
I suspect that for people who spend a large amount of time in the house, the quality of “inside-ness” rubs off on them: you can probably text your vampire friend the location of your spare key and ask them to check on your cat, even if you’re not there. But someone who has never been inside can’t reasonably offer an “invitation.”
sundray@lemmus.org 1 day ago
Yes, but only on the night of the full moon during business hours.
Favoring9181@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This reminded me of an old vampire-cop tv series called Forever Knight.
Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Vampire fireman wouldn't be able to enter a house if it was on fire, why would police be different
Evotech@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can a vampire enter apartments if its admitted to the building? How about row homes?
sad_detective_man@leminal.space 1 day ago
doesn’t matter, they can shoot into your house even if they don’t have a warrant so they’re getting your blood one way or another
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It hinges on if the vampire is allowed to be invited in by anyone (like the black plague was) or only by the owner of the house.
Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It wouldn’t work. The vampire needs the permission of the owner to enter the house. The person who issued the warrant is not the owner of the house.
blondebabe@reddthat.com 1 day ago
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 day ago
It’s one of the few careers that still offers a pension.a few decades of being a cop, which is nothing to a vampire, and you get a nice chunk of change monthly.
Spend a century as a cop, do 25 years for 4 different departments, collect 4 pensions. Seems like a pretty good plan for a young vampire to pull.
Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 day ago
Tell that to Blade
wiccan2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I rent so I don’t own my house.
Does this mean i can be an absolute dick and invite them in anyway knowing they won’t be able to enter. Could I literally stand at door and mock them. “Can the big bad vampire not enter, aww, what a shame.”
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
it’s magic not a legal clause….
the people living there, not legal owners
fartographer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What if the city declares eminent domain? Also, how does ownership work with apartments? Can a landlord grant a vampire carte blanche entry?
Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Eminent Domain can’t be declared by some random police officer, it’s a complex process that takes years and it needs a specific valid public purpose. Some countries require the government to publish a declaration that specifies what public utility the project that will be built on that land will bring.
Valmond@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There were a Terry pratchett book where the king gave permission to come, so the invitation was like for the whole kingdom. But IIRC houses were still excluded.
Blueshift@piefed.world 1 day ago
Carpe Jugulum, great book!
ur_ONLEY_freind@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It doesn’t have to be the owner, Just anybody who’s already inside the property needs to let them in.
So if they had a human as a partner who could go in first and then let them in, then they have nothing to worry about
Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Depends who you ask.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What if you have a mortgage and they call up the bank?
Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 day ago
When you have a mortgage you still are the owner of the house. You just owe the bank money and the house is just a collateral for that money. If you default on your loan then the bank can take possession of the house to cover the loan and then would become the owners, but only in that case.
SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Now hold on. The man’s house does not exist in a vaccume but within a state and the owner who owns it only does so at the pleasure of that state. In a sense the owner is maybe the one most directly in control over who can and can’t come in but he does not have final say. That comes from the states monopoly on violence able to will themselves into houses under their jurisdiction given the right legal work.
You might say no, in which case is the owner of the house the only one able to invite a vampire in? No other person with access or implied authority can? No roommate, child, house guest? I think we can all agree that the vampire would be able to enter with those peoples permissions and I would argue the state has more actual authority to pick and choose who can enter the house than any of the examples.
This vampire cop is truly unstoppable.