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How is woke a religion?

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ruford1976@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why are you intolerant against my intolerance

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  • MxM111@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Every religion is a belief system, but not every belief system a religion.

    Every billionaire Elon Musk is an idiot, but not every idiot billionaire Elon Musk.

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    • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If someone is yelling obscenities at you

      All religion is obscene.

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      • Nepenthe@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I know you're trolling and indeed fuck the rest, but..buddhist monks? Pretty hard to have beef with. No pun intended.

        I guess you could make the case that encouraging indifference towards suffering breeds a whole different class of sociopathy, but even then, at least they're the least destructive they can possibly be by just never touching anything.

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    • neanderthal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Go set theory!

      Religion is a subset of the set of belief systems.

      Elon Musk is a member of the set of billionaires. We could define a set with one member, Elon Musk. It would be a subset of billionaires.

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  • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TIL that >70% of christians/mormons/other-santa-for-adults-cults would not try to get rid of hatepreachers on campus. Wow. Bleak.

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  • MxM111@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How is being atheist and being woke even related?

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  • stephenc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Religion is harmful to people and atheism isn’t. Do these people complain when someone shuts down a speaker who advocates having sex with young children? No? Then shut the hell up and let us kill religion like it should have been centuries ago.

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  • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wow look at the near perfect Buddhism balance.

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    • stringere@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the (middle) way.

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  • bi_tux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Purely depends on the speaker

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah obviously, but that was the point. Would you shout down any speaker

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      • Pieisawesome@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean if it was literally Hitler come back to life, sure.

        They shouldn’t have grouped “always” and “sometimes”.

        It means that people who are hard line anti religion and would yell at someone if they dared to express the tiniest support for a religion to people who would protest or yell at someone who is widely accepted as bad.

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      • uint8_t@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        yes

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Aww, did someone get peer reviewed?

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  • undercrust@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the most impressive thing about this is that they were able to travel a year into the future to obtain the survey data.

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    • snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      School data is labeled by the school year in which it is collected, and the label is the ending year.

      The 2024 school year is 7/1/2023 - 6/30/2024, so this was most likely collected within the last month or so after school started.

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      • DarkGamer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Link to source: https://rankings.thefire.org/

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  • northendtrooper@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seems to me that I should follow the religion of Nothing or No response. Because we all know that this a BS bar chart.

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  • InfiniWheel@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Holy meaningless buzzwords batman

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  • n0m4n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some replace various religions with a worship of money.

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  • vivavideri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I originally perceived this as if the religion of the speaker was x, results were how likely they’d be essentially boo’d. I don’t get much shit for being an atheist lately, but depending on the peer group it can get a little…dicey.

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  • fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The fact that atheism is another belief system is true (none of us is out there proving shit because it can’t be proved, both ways), but calling it wokeness and a religion makes you look like the dumbass you are, Elon.

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    • SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The fact that atheism is another belief system is true

      The fact that bald is another hair color is true

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, it’s been proven that humans have a psychological need for religion, but…

    Wokeness? A religion?

    Eh at worst you have companies overcompensating to avoid seeming racist or sexist… and you have tankies taking it too far and claiming everything is imperialist bullshit, but that’s hardly a new phenomenon… Hippies of yesteryear did similar.

    But again, worst case scenarios.

    There’s nothing wrong with saying “Maybe you shouldn’t speak here, or, anywhere really?” if a guy is literally going to Colleges to give seminars on how “Hitler did nothing wrong, and maybe transpeople, and not the constantly crashing economy and the blatant failure of trickle down… are to blame for all of your problems.”

    I remember when being “Woke” had positive connotations, but the Right Wing ruins everything.

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    • WldFyre@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If humans have a need for religion then how do atheists exist?

      Do you have a link for that? Not sure I believe that

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      • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s good to be skeptical, afterall, a sourceless claim isn’t worth much.

        www.apa.org/monitor/2010/12/believe

        It’s why you see a shrinking number of people going to church, yet seemingly paradoxical more causes of atheists going to church “For the sense of community”

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Woke” is still positive - that’s why the right wing hates it.

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      • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not really now the connotation is more connected to the kind of out of touch corporation that thinks progress is just calling yourself “they/them” and trying to appeal to minorities and lgbt persons in ways more offense than just using slurs. (Remember Q Force?)

        Or the kind of weekend warrior who thinks cancelling people over Twitter because every other word is a dog whistle. When if they really wanted to be part of the solution and not the problem they’d have abandoned twitter in favor of Mastodon by now.

        Btw Hexbear is FULL of the latter… had a gang cherry picking my posts to claim I was a pedo and a Nazi by warping a few out of context and connecting unrelated posts… so unpleasant

        Basically if you’re woke now it means you’re an out of touch white guy getting offended on behalf of minorities who weren’t even slightly offended to begin with.

        It used to mean that you were aware that society’s problems are caused by the blatant greed of the rich, not the perceived laziness of the poor.

        These things happen. They call it the euphemism treadmill, sometimes the meanings of words shift and what was a compliment becomes an insult and vice versa

        Kind of like how “Person of Color” and “Queer” used to be slurs, the R word used to be a medical term, and the three letter F word used to be a schoolyard insult instead of “The N Word for gays”

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  • original_ish_name@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have never seen any religion that tries to convert people more than atheism

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    • HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, with their mission trips, and their door to door no-jesus salesmanship, I hate having to deal with atheists always coming around trying to convince me that I don't need to believe in a god at risk of burning in hell forever. Fucking atheists.

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  • DarkWasp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just try and ignore anything this antagonistic fool/troll says and your life will be better off.

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  • MaximumOverflow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We are not censorious. We are just tired of hearing the same predatory bullshit over and over again.

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  • fosforus@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a religion (or a cult, really) because of its faith-based arguments, not because of how others react to it.

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  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think most would cite something like the paradox of intolerance - you need a bit of intolerance of intolerance to sustain any tolerance.

    I bet the Christian stat would have been higher in the past too, when they were on the front foot and the controversial speaker was less likely to be someone they agreed with.

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would cite that shouting back is also free speech

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Atheism” has been appropriated by people with a grudge against religion who wants to destroy it at all costs, and convert all practitionerd of religion to atheism. So, armchair crusaders.

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  • lugal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How is Jewish so low?? History doesn’t repeat, I still hope it doesn’t rhyme either.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You shout nazis out of town. Why is that a bad thing?

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      • lugal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sorry I’m stupid or tired or something. I misread the graph to mean that those people should be shout down but they are the people who were asked which makes a lot more sense

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  • FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If “woke” hadn’t become a political buzzword, would Elon have said what that refrain used to be? As in, would he also have said that atheists just replaced god with the worship of science? Absolute stupidity and smooth brainery regardless

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  • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I shout at people all day everyday and they still talk to me

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dogmatic worldviews don’t need to be theistic

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  • DarkGamer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    FIRE files lawsuits against colleges and universities that it perceives as curtailing First Amendment rights of students and professors. FIRE has been described as a competitor of the ACLU. In 2021, the organization had an annual revenue of $16.1 million. ...
    FIRE has received major funding from groups which primarily support conservative and libertarian causes, including the Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, and the Charles Koch Institute.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Individual_Rights_and_Expression

    Still, a lot of the cases they fight for seem to be all over the political spectrum.

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