2065: the entire population of Montana is wolves.
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Don’t ask about Idaho or Wyoming.
Wolf Reboot
Submitted 2 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
2bee@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I like the concise text information, but as a graphic designer this infographic is very poorly laid out and very easily causes confusion (as partially seen in the comments here).
perishthethought@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
We’re reintroducing wolves in my state now and its been problematic so far.
coloradosun.com/…/gray-wolves-depredation-payment…
Nb: I don’t have a side in this. Just sharing recent news.
NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
The environment is more important than rancher’s bottom lines
perishthethought@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
1000%
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/…/ecm.1598 more on this topic, it is open access
perishthethought@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
I wonder if anyone knows whether ranchers in WY / MT lost income & were compensated by the state as well?
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Reintroducing wolves won’t work everywhere.
Hunting can be an effective population control as well, but seeing how large and sparsely populated Yellowstone is, it’s probably why it didn’t work there.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I guess the government pays for all other lost income due to natural events?
FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Is there a way to follow this without opening a terrible Zuck owned website.
friendly_ghost@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t dead open inside.
Psythik@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
How did wolves affect all of this?
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Trophic Cascade would be a cool band namr
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
without the wolves, there is nothing stopping the deer population/elks from exploding, and when theres a ton of deer or elk theres an increase the trees, bushes being stripped for food since deers like to eat them. Also the drastic increase in parasites that would affect other animals the deers, have like ticks and tickborne diseases.
trees and bushes die from all thier leaves getting stripped constantly, unless its a super poisonous tree(which is more common in the tropics), and birds dont have nests, and insects wont able to pollinate certain plants,etc.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
It’s the second box
Psythik@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
How is it the wolves’ faults that elk are assholes?
philycheeze@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
My understanding is that this has been wildly oversimplified and puts much more emphasis on the Wolf conservation efforts. To be fair, there is also a lot of places in and around Yellowstone that still teach this same trophic cascade idea.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
Is 31 wolves enough for genetic diversity?
MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There are national forests next to it and native reservations nearby and a more difficult path to Canada, so you would expect some of the males to roam out. That’s only really a problem if they’re isolated.
iuly20_07@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
It goes to show that the solution to everything is wolves. If it didn’t work, you haven’t used enough wolves.
bigFab@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Only a biology professor could know wiping out an entire animal population affects biodiversity negatively.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The genuinely toxic tale is that we sat around for 69 years before we decided to fix things.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Most people like to argue that “people didn’t know better back then.” That’s absolute bullshit. There were ecologists and scientists fighting to preserve wolves in the 1920s, and conservatives and capitalists chose to ignore the best advice of educated experts because killing wolves was easier and more profitable.
boonhet@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Well I for syre learned in school that our ancestors called wolves the nurses of the forest. In our culture anyway. They’re very important because by hunting old and sickly animals preferentially instead of killing indiscriminately, they improve the overall health of populations of other animals like deer or elk. Obviously it’s also not great for any population to get too large because they’ll destroy their own food supply. Again, release the wolves.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For the sake of argument, even if they didn’t know any better (shame on them for not knowing better), they could’ve easily recognized the problem and fixed it much sooner than 1995.
whereisk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The system is geared towards negative presumption of the recent past even as it glorifies and reveres the long past (ancient philosophers and religious figures).
Just in case most of us figure out that anything we think of as new or intractable problems are things that we knew about and were deliberately ignored or actively campaigned against by the same forces that do it now.
frezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
PETA is still against it. Adding to the evidence that PETA is not a serious organization.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
PETA are POS that needs to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Are we about through with the 69 years sitting around about climate change? Can we actually start fixing things?
b3an@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How much of that was seeing what all those decades actually DID, and a generation later realizing it needed to be changed.
Still it’s crappy we are so crappy with our home. I do think we should work exceptionally hard to fix things here. Find real solutions to problems. Else what’s the point of going to other planets? We need those same skills to survive, terraform, geoengineer, know the potential for ecology, etc.