Submitted 1 year ago by snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world to [deleted]
https://decrypt.co/154373/the-pentagon-is-accelerating-ai-and-autonomous-technology
The Pentagon Is Accelerating AI and Autonomous Technology America’s military leaders are racing to deploy thousands of autonomous weapons and an AI-powered air monitoring system for Washington D.C.
Most military networks are closed circuit by design. I’m not sure how this could be implemented without also allowing back doors to be exploited. You wouldn’t want someone to be able to turn off your defenses as they begin an attack, for example.
There are a number of ways to do it. You can transmit a one-time code to the device that you set up right beforehand. No one’s going to be able to guess your 1024 character one-time password.
You can even protect the password entry program itself with port knocking. If the right ports aren’t accessed in the right sequence, the enemy doesn’t even get a chance to try their passwords.
Every server is on the Internet 99.999% of the time. They are constantly being tested. The right cybersecurity tools are available now.
Just make the code 00000 like the nuclear launch codes were for years.
I’m sure (or at least I hope) nuclear weapons have similar systems in place so that they can be launched or shut off as needed?
In what ways would this be different
Yeah, they don’t. Nuclear systems are for the most part closed sourced and built on DOS level hardware. Most of that shit can’t connect to the internet even if they wanted it to. The system you’re thinking about is radio waves between people talking.
The department of defense was hacked just a few years ago, suck a button would have to have access to an internet. Meaning anyone could get to it and shut off the drones and such
They’ll just murder a bunch of people and then be turned off after having been shown to be ineffective too dangerous.
It’s not like AI is reliable at this point. Way too many people are actively ignoring experts pointing this fact out and instead obsessing over Skynet or w/e made up sci-fi BS.
Rather than be used for war, they’ll be used for threats of violence and propaganda. It’s not a new problem. It’s just a new version of that same problem.
Rather than be used for war, they’ll be used for threats of violence and propaganda
Surveillance is the word you’re looking for. Take all those NSA pipelines and run them through an AI and BAM, you’ve got your “terrorists”.
Well said.
humanity sucks
Or how about not building them at all
It is not the world we live in unfortunately. Tell that you the Russians, to China or to some terrorist group with a few hundred thousand to spare.
I agree. It always has been an arms race and probably always will be. Humans are too aggressively murdery for our own good. I mean it served us well when we actually had real wild adversaries, but now it’s tearing our civilization and planet apart.
There is also a danger that the kill switch command could be leaked to the Russians or the Chinese who would use it to shut down the USA’s defenses just before a full scale invasion of a now defenseless USA.
I don’t think the robots are the only military America would have. The military is kind of their thing.
should there be an “all off” button?
NO! Movies would be so much more entertaining if the bad guy learned the error of his ways but was still unable to stop the robot slaughter.
Sounds like the beginnings, of the plot to Horizon Dawn. Can’t have it both ways, either it’s a secure closed system with no way to stop it if it goes rogue or it has safety’s built in but then those could be exploited.
Most people in this thread need to learn the difference between AI and AGI
There really would be no way to have an interface that shuts it down, that an AI wouldn’t be able to compromise. Though I imagine the military will set up a plan to blow up it’s connections to power and the internet should it go rouge.
People use the term AI too loosely. We don’t actually have artificial intelligence. We have neural networks that can perform tasks based on training data, but it’s not actually intelligent by any means. That said, fully autonomous systems have existed for decades already. Look up CIWS or CRAM.
I’m not going to get into a “no real Scottsman” arugement about the advancements in this field
Better dead than rouge, I always say.
Sounds like the opening to the most recent Battlestar Galactica series. A kill switch can be hacked.
Anti-robotics is where the money is.
Are armor penetrating EMP rounds a thing yet?
More likely we’ll see a button to instantly transfer money from tax payer pockets to these companies’ CEO’s pockets
More likely we’ll see a button to instantly transfer money from tax payer pockets to these companies’ CEO’s pockets
Don't forget to add the option to tip that's in-vogue for everything these days.
Would you like to add a tip for your robot defenders to this months subscription fee for AI Protection Max Ultra (tm)?
I’m sorry Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.
Age of Ultrom 2: Electric Boogaloo
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Maybe can we take a step back and ask whether we need thousands of AI defense bots at all? Or are we past that point?
Zippy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t like it but I think we do. China and Russia will certainly have them and they will get ten for better in a same amount of years.
I watched the Ted talk on defense drivers. Scary shit. Thing is I work with commercial cameras and have, in hand, camera that can not only identify all kinds of objects such a human’s, they can recognize individual humans and put a name to them. They can recognize if people are loitering or if someone is being followed. They can reconsider a car from a truck from a bus from a bike. This is not done in a server but thru the power of the CPU in the camera alone. The cost. 500 dollars.
Point being the power available in such a low cost item is staggering. Combined with a weapons platform and it is scary. A terrorist group could distribute hundreds into bushes and they could just sit there for a week in low power mode, waiting to recognize a simple person and spring into action. This is stuff we have right now off the shelf.
What will be part of military arsenals in ten years will eclipse this current tech significantly. Troops won’t be ambushed by live human fire but by thousands of drones that care not for their survival.
sdoorex@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
It’s the nuclear arms race part deux: AI boogaloo.
kava@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What I think is dangerous is terrorists or mass killers getting dozens or hundreds of small drones and installing explosives on them. Install these cameras and CPUs you mentioned that can recognize human faces and have them fly into someone’s face and then explode.
You could kill many people and unless we start installing AA turrets all over our populated cities, there seems to be little we can do to stop it.