I’d like to see a requirement for microSD card storage. The cost of storage an phones is entirely deplorable
How do you think smartphone manufacturers will comply with EU's replaceable battery regulation?
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MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
And the same for the headphone jack. Getting rid of it just so they can force you to buy planned e-waste fast is less convenient and more expensive should be a crime.
foggy@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Huh? There’s not enough roooom, you all wanted smaller phones right?
Rubs nipples
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Oh yea. One of the reasons why I went for a Samsung A-Series instead of the S-Series is the microSD card slot. Yes, that slot is just soooo goood.
I can get an A series phone for like $400 with IP67 Water Resistance, and buy a $130 1TB MicroSD card and Voila, a 1TB phone. The cheapest Galaxy S-Series phone with 1TB storage is a $1500 Galaxy Ultra.
Like bruh, I don’t want to pay $1000 more if all I want to do is watch youtube videos with it.
I can have an offline wikipedia, like 10 TV shows, a few movies, the top 100 of my favorite Youtube Videos, thousands of books (that I’ll probably never read), cat photos, more cat photos, cat videos, and even more cat videos… etc…
I have a mini computer in my pocket.
Sadly no replaceable battery tho 🤷♂️
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Samsung A-Series
Okey so I googled it. “Low range android phones blabla…”. Checked the price. Oh yeah wtf it’s 400€ lol. That’s more than I ever paid for a phone, even including the current one, Honor 10 which I got before covid
SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Maybe on an iPhone
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Cost of storage on Samsung Galaxy phones are not exactly cheap either
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 23 hours ago
Samsung somehow managed to include removable battery, a headphone jack and SD card slot in the XCover 6 Pro while maintaining ip67 rating and a price of under 700 euros. I’m sure they’ll be able to figure it out.
meekah@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
It’s available for ~400€ where I am
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
looks around
…why’s he talking about my phone?
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
I’ve got one too!
leonprimrose@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Begrudgingly
solrize@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It sounds like the regulation is weak enough that the manufacturers won’t have to do much. I have to say batteries or chargers have gotten better. Batteries used to fail all the time, but they last much longer now. So people are less bothered.
lukstru@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Wasn’t it actually apple with the adhesive strips that can easily be removed when a current is applied? Such tech would be awesome if more generally available
lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
they will put the battery in a section not waterproof under the back cover. the replacement battery will come with a waterproof glue circle around the contacts. when replacing it, you will rub off some old glue and seal it again by inserting the new one. water can enter the back cover, but do no harm there.
over_clox@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’ll either make the phones dumb again, or make the batteries replaceable again.
If they do the latter, they’ll probably just make them even thinner, requiring you to replace them more often.
Draegur@lemm.ee 1 day ago
they’ll make smaller shittier batteries that die more quickly so that they can charge more to replace them and put proprietary control chips inside them so either third party manufacturers of better batteries will have to “violate copyright” in order to make them work or YOU’LL be required to “violate copyright” to make them work, thus locking most people without the technical skills to circumvent the ‘security’ into only buying the shitty ‘official’ batteries until MORE regulation comes along to make them cut that shit out. In the mean time they’ll be blaming the regulations for the shittiness they adopted.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
copyright
Patent is the word you’re looking for
Copyright is for words, videos, audios
Patent is for technology
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’ll make them replaceable and ignore waterproofing them for 99% of models citing the added difficulty in making a good seal without being able to glue it shut. Which is arguably true. It’s possible, but more difficult to design and much more likely to fail.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
They’ll make them replaceable and ignore waterproofing them for 99% of models citing the added difficulty in making a good seal without being able to glue it shut. Which is arguably true.
Take a look at Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro
it’s still in production and being sold lol
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I never said it was impossible. I said it was harder to both make them replaceable and water resistant. And they won’t bother to do both for 99% of models, they’ll just drop the water resistance to comply with replaceable battery requirements. There might be a few that they bother and then sell at inflated prices.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
That’s a ruggedized phone, most people don’t want a phone that’s twice as thick and doesn’t provide anywhere near twice the battery.
Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 23 hours ago
I don’t know why waterproofing phones became de facto standard. How often will that waterproofing actually come to use?
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Having worked in retail phone repair for 15 years, both for a major US carrier and privately… A lot.
I saw water damaged phones every single day, and I’m hundreds of miles from an ocean, sea, lake, or any major body of water. That’s just from mistakes near things like backyard pools.
nicerdicer@feddit.org 21 hours ago
This is because waterproof devices will be exempt from having to have replaceable batteries.
Some manufacturers are already eyeing an exemption for batteries used in “wet conditions” to opt out electric toothbrushes and possibly wearables like earbuds and smartwatches. The exemption is “based on unfounded safety claims,” states Thomas Opsomer, policy engineer for iFixit, in RepairEU’s post.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
Rain is quite common. Most clothing isn’t waterproof.
Or you could ne making a call after a rainy day then drop it in a puddle.
Or your drinks spilled over
etc… etc…
jeffw@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If your battery is replaceable, there will be cheaper 3rd party options.
IJustFarted@lemmings.world 14 hours ago
Fart Sounds
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I need to see the regulations before I make a prediction.
alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
We will have to see.
Apple can charge $400 more, but if Samsung doesn’t, then they will lose market share.
And the EU is still one of the worlds three biggest markets.
So I am not really concerned.
And worst case, I switch to a Fairphone, which might not be bleeding edge, but it is still a better phone than my previous gen flagship Samsung or the flagship iPhone that came before it.
I see it as just running 2 years behind.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They will sell repair kits.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
As far as I know, they’ll have to include it with the sale of the phone in order to be compliant.
Not the battery itself, but like the tools to do the repair.
RandomUser@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Battery replacement is an issue, but is easily solved with good design. I don’t need the thinnest phone that’s difficult to hold, a few extra mm won’t affect my life negatively. I’d rather have something usable and maintainable.
My biggest gripe however is the built in obsolesce of software support life. Perfectly good electronics are rendered useless by the system not receiving software / security updates after a couple of years.
Aux@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
That’s how all computing hardware works since the early days of the industry apart from x86 architecture. Not sure why people only started noticing that recently after literally decades of software obsolescence.