Samsung somehow managed to include removable battery, a headphone jack and SD card slot in the XCover 6 Pro while maintaining ip67 rating and a price of under 700 euros. I’m sure they’ll be able to figure it out.
How do you think smartphone manufacturers will comply with EU's replaceable battery regulation?
Submitted 1 month ago by IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com to [deleted]
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Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 month ago
meekah@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s available for ~400€ where I am
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 month ago
looks around
…why’s he talking about my phone?
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 month ago
I’ve got one too!
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I’d like to see a requirement for microSD card storage. The cost of storage an phones is entirely deplorable
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
And the same for the headphone jack. Getting rid of it just so they can force you to buy planned e-waste fast is less convenient and more expensive should be a crime.
foggy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Huh? There’s not enough roooom, you all wanted smaller phones right?
Rubs nipples
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Oh yea. One of the reasons why I went for a Samsung A-Series instead of the S-Series is the microSD card slot. Yes, that slot is just soooo goood.
I can get an A series phone for like $400 with IP67 Water Resistance, and buy a $130 1TB MicroSD card and Voila, a 1TB phone. The cheapest Galaxy S-Series phone with 1TB storage is a $1500 Galaxy Ultra.
Like bruh, I don’t want to pay $1000 more if all I want to do is watch youtube videos with it.
I can have an offline wikipedia, like 10 TV shows, a few movies, the top 100 of my favorite Youtube Videos, thousands of books (that I’ll probably never read), cat photos, more cat photos, cat videos, and even more cat videos… etc…
I have a mini computer in my pocket.
Sadly no replaceable battery tho 🤷♂️
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Samsung A-Series
Okey so I googled it. “Low range android phones blabla…”. Checked the price. Oh yeah wtf it’s 400€ lol. That’s more than I ever paid for a phone, even including the current one, Honor 10 which I got before covid
SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Maybe on an iPhone
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Cost of storage on Samsung Galaxy phones are not exactly cheap either
leonprimrose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Begrudgingly
solrize@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It sounds like the regulation is weak enough that the manufacturers won’t have to do much. I have to say batteries or chargers have gotten better. Batteries used to fail all the time, but they last much longer now. So people are less bothered.
lukstru@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wasn’t it actually apple with the adhesive strips that can easily be removed when a current is applied? Such tech would be awesome if more generally available
lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
they will put the battery in a section not waterproof under the back cover. the replacement battery will come with a waterproof glue circle around the contacts. when replacing it, you will rub off some old glue and seal it again by inserting the new one. water can enter the back cover, but do no harm there.
over_clox@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They’ll either make the phones dumb again, or make the batteries replaceable again.
If they do the latter, they’ll probably just make them even thinner, requiring you to replace them more often.
Draegur@lemm.ee 1 month ago
they’ll make smaller shittier batteries that die more quickly so that they can charge more to replace them and put proprietary control chips inside them so either third party manufacturers of better batteries will have to “violate copyright” in order to make them work or YOU’LL be required to “violate copyright” to make them work, thus locking most people without the technical skills to circumvent the ‘security’ into only buying the shitty ‘official’ batteries until MORE regulation comes along to make them cut that shit out. In the mean time they’ll be blaming the regulations for the shittiness they adopted.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
copyright
Patent is the word you’re looking for
Copyright is for words, videos, audios
Patent is for technology
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They’ll make them replaceable and ignore waterproofing them for 99% of models citing the added difficulty in making a good seal without being able to glue it shut. Which is arguably true. It’s possible, but more difficult to design and much more likely to fail.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
They’ll make them replaceable and ignore waterproofing them for 99% of models citing the added difficulty in making a good seal without being able to glue it shut. Which is arguably true.
Take a look at Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro
it’s still in production and being sold lol
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I never said it was impossible. I said it was harder to both make them replaceable and water resistant. And they won’t bother to do both for 99% of models, they’ll just drop the water resistance to comply with replaceable battery requirements. There might be a few that they bother and then sell at inflated prices.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
That’s a ruggedized phone, most people don’t want a phone that’s twice as thick and doesn’t provide anywhere near twice the battery.
Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I don’t know why waterproofing phones became de facto standard. How often will that waterproofing actually come to use?
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Having worked in retail phone repair for 15 years, both for a major US carrier and privately… A lot.
I saw water damaged phones every single day, and I’m hundreds of miles from an ocean, sea, lake, or any major body of water. That’s just from mistakes near things like backyard pools.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Rain is quite common. Most clothing isn’t waterproof.
Or you could ne making a call after a rainy day then drop it in a puddle.
Or your drinks spilled over
etc… etc…
nicerdicer@feddit.org 1 month ago
This is because waterproof devices will be exempt from having to have replaceable batteries.
Some manufacturers are already eyeing an exemption for batteries used in “wet conditions” to opt out electric toothbrushes and possibly wearables like earbuds and smartwatches. The exemption is “based on unfounded safety claims,” states Thomas Opsomer, policy engineer for iFixit, in RepairEU’s post.
jeffw@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If your battery is replaceable, there will be cheaper 3rd party options.
alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
We will have to see.
Apple can charge $400 more, but if Samsung doesn’t, then they will lose market share.
And the EU is still one of the worlds three biggest markets.
So I am not really concerned.
And worst case, I switch to a Fairphone, which might not be bleeding edge, but it is still a better phone than my previous gen flagship Samsung or the flagship iPhone that came before it.
I see it as just running 2 years behind.
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I need to see the regulations before I make a prediction.
IJustFarted@lemmings.world 1 month ago
Fart Sounds
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They will sell repair kits.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
As far as I know, they’ll have to include it with the sale of the phone in order to be compliant.
Not the battery itself, but like the tools to do the repair.
RandomUser@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Battery replacement is an issue, but is easily solved with good design. I don’t need the thinnest phone that’s difficult to hold, a few extra mm won’t affect my life negatively. I’d rather have something usable and maintainable.
My biggest gripe however is the built in obsolesce of software support life. Perfectly good electronics are rendered useless by the system not receiving software / security updates after a couple of years.
Aux@feddit.uk 1 month ago
That’s how all computing hardware works since the early days of the industry apart from x86 architecture. Not sure why people only started noticing that recently after literally decades of software obsolescence.
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Routine updates. Until recently hardware was getting better at such a rate they’d upgrade before software became an issue. The power increase curve has mostly plateau’d over the past several years so the incentive to upgrade is significantly lower so people are keeping their older hardware for longer and suddenly seeing the problems. That and the average user is now getting more aware of security updates.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Only EU is doing the right thing here for consumers.
AA5B@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Some manufacturers have longer support than others. I don’t know how to encourage that but maybe there needs to be a minimum acceptable