Revelations 16:2
So the first angel went and poured his bowl on the earth, and a foul and painful sore came on those who had the mark of the beast and who worshipped its image.
Matthew 23:24
Then if anyone says to you, “Look! Here is the Messiah!” or “There he is!”—do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and produce great signs and omens, to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
If people on the Right want to claim a Christian high ground, then quote the book that matters most to them.
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m 54 and had no idea what measles was until lately. See, we didn’t have that shit when I was growing up, never even heard of someone catching it.
That’s how dumb American’s have become. We’ve regressed to pre germ theory.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
That’s exactly the problem. Vaccines have worked so well that people have forgotten the horrors of the diseases they prevent.
I read an article a while back about a mother who’s little girl caught whooping cough. She hadn’t vaccinated her, but said that watching her daughter struggling to breathe was the worst thing she’d experienced and wished she had listened and given her the vaccine.
People realize very quickly why vaccines are important, but it’s usually by experiencing it firsthand, and unfortunately it’s too late by then.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The IT paradox :
You are right that vaccines worked so well because mostly everyone had them, and mostly everyone has to take them for them to work.
Village idiots got a support system and crossed the threshold where the herd immunity has diminished enough for outbreaks in communities.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That isn’t why antivaxxers exist. Antivaxxers exist because they believe the vaccines themselves are poisonous or harmful as a core belief. Whether they believe the diseases are severe or exist is moot because that’s not what they have a problem with.
Many antivaxxers’ children do get severe disease and they do not change their stance because they genuinely believe the vaccines are so harmful.
It’s not that life is so good they are afraid, (doesn’t even make sense) but rather life is so bad and such a distrust in our medical system that they feel like they can’t risk what they see as a bad product.
Misunderstanding these people may make the problem simpler and may make you feel good about yourself, but it doesn’t do much to address their actual beliefs.
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m that guy regarding polio. My Silent Gen mom would go on about how thankful they were for the polio vaccine and how as kids they lived in fear.
“Polio? Wasn’t that some medieval disease?”
I couldn’t begin to relate.
Got much the same talk asking about her smallpox scar. I’m not sure we were inoculated in the early 70s, the disease was extinct. (Mostly stopped in '72, looks like I barely dodged it.)
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 1 month ago
To be fair that means the education system has failed you in that regard. That probably contributes to the anti vax cult, they’re simply not taught why vaccines are important and what they help prevent.
boreengreen@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Free quality education for all is a foundation for a functioning democracy.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You are regressing to pre science at the moment.
imvii@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I’m the same age. I never knew anyone who had measles EXCEPT older people who told stories of it. I never knew anyone who had it whilst I knew them.
On the flip side, we attended chickenpox parties to get infected. Of course this was before the vaccination and knowing more about Shingles. All the folklore knew was one you get chickenpox, you never get it again and it’s better to have it as a child than adult.