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Are movies where the time loops over and over considered time travel movies?

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨lobut@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Edge of Tomorrow.

    Plot - Earth is invaded by aliens. Tom Cruise gets a power where if he dies, the day starts over. So, he keeps pushing forward in the warzone, and if he dies, he knows how he’ll get attacked and adapts to it.

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    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s essentially a single player shooter game from the perspective of the player character

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a pretty decent movie too.

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      • stringere@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My wife relented on her “no Tom Cruise movies” stance because he dies 200+ times in it.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes. Except for the last 1/4.

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    • SolOrion@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m confused, do you think this is a request for time loop movies?

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      • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes?

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  • pagenotfound@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The premise of time travel movies is a person being able to be present at a different time to their original timeline. So I guess you could say a Groundhog Day type of movie is a subgenre of the time travel genre.

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    • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Okay, maybe sub-genre is the proper phrase I was thinking of. Thanks!

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think it depends on the method for the loop, and how time itself plays into the plot.

    Like, I wouldn’t say Groundhog’s Day is a time travel story. But Deathloop (the game) is a time travel story.

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    • stringere@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d say Bioshock Infinite and Arc fit your criteria

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Arc? Or Ark?

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  • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here’s a list of films featuring time loops.

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    • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      excellent list. Not on the list but really enjoyed was a movie with Kurt Russel “Touchback”. But more time travel vs time loop

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I say no.

    Time travel stories are about going to a different time.
    Time loop stories are repeating the same time.
    It’s really that simple.

    Time loops are anti-time travel really, as there’s no movement in time at all.

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      predestination is a mix then? it’s a loop, but selected time periods.

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Haven’t seen it, but sounds like it. Time travel can certainly be used to create loops.

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What about stories about time travel that ultimately form a closed loop? There’s one that has people moving forwards and backwards through time, yet forms a closed loop at the end: >!Dark!<

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If they’re using time travel to create a causality loop, that’s different than a time loop.

        Time loops usually reset causality, accept for those actually experiencing the loop iterations.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A clue closed loop creates consistency.

        Groundhog loops are different each loop

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  • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I say yes. It’s one of my favorite genres (if you can call it one) and definitely includes loop-based plots like Groundhog Day and Primer. But I also enjoy the Terminator Series and Back to the Future and Army of Darkness. I imagine most fans are similar.

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      predestination

      time crimes

      triangle

      caddo lake

      add those to your list

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Looper

        Donnie darko

        Source code

        Next

        Bill and Ted

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  • sircac@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, when the loop takes place there is a travel in time taking place… but not as in the standard time travel films.

    I think is important to point out that in the Groundhog time loops the travel is only of the memories or the information, there is no energy-mass traveling (though information is a kind of energy, let me skip physics here), and the traveler at the beginning of the loop has not carried anything from the future but the memories of the previous loop, did not age or suffered physical modifications (there may be exceptions, sure).

    So I think that is a kind of time travel, but a sub-genre where the travel is less material than in the typical time travels.

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  • cajunflavoredbob@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Infinite Isekai

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here’s one: where do you put things like The Long Earth where it’s not time you step through per-se, but all the possible futures starting from the beginning of the universe?

    I really want to see someone make that series into a movie.

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    • lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s a parallel worlds story. There are many movies and shows about travel through parallel worlds. Sliders is the first that comes to mind.

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      • clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Constellation

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  • GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, time-travel stories typically involve traveling by way of some mechanism be it a spell, wormhole, tear in spacetime and etc. The end goal is usually traveling from one point to another with a purpose. Characters can travel back and forth. Everyone remembers each encounter.

    Time-loops, like in Groundhog’s Day or Edge of Tomorrow, usually cause people to get “stuck.” Some plot device is then introduced to eventually “unstick” them. Only the people stuck in the loop are usually aware that anything is happening.

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Netflix categorizes them that way…

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  • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Naked (2017)

    Plot - Rob is caught in a time loop as he keeps waking up naked in a hotel elevator on the day of his wedding. This is a remake of the 2000 Swedish film Naken.

    Not a great film, though.

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  • actionjbone@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The question is whether a time loop is a form of time travel.

    Are they actually going back in time? Or is time itself looping back on itself? These aren’t the same cause, though the effects can look the same

    So I suppose, conventionally, it can be thought of as a subform of time travel. But from a technical perspective, it may or may not be

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