So when Trump becomes president he can just throw all his political opponents in jail, right? It's a presidential action.
'A king above the law': US Supreme Court's Trump ruling prompts judges to warn of 'nightmare scenarios'
Submitted 5 months ago by unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone to worldnews@aussie.zone
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-02/donald-trump-immunity-supreme-court-decision/104046210?
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atro_city@fedia.io 5 months ago
Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think you’re mistaking Biden for someone who is not a corporatist.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 months ago
Centre of democracy my arse
No1@aussie.zone 5 months ago
It staggers me that in reality so much of the operation of various countries democracies have relied upon good people acting in good faith.
Was Scomo making himself anything less than a king by secretly appointing himself as the minister in charge for every key portfolio? Role out martial law, and congratulations, you have a new dictator.
I always thought that looking back through history, with the lessons from ancient Egypt, Greece, the Roman Empire and even the rise of Stalin, Hitler etc we would be aware of what to look for and wouldn’t fall for the same thing over and over.
But it still seems to be so incredibly easy to achieve.
I am disappoint…
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 months ago
I find it really disappointing that Scomo and David Hurley got away with it as well, especially David Hurley. This showed that he was completely unfit for the job
Draegur@lemm.ee 5 months ago
i think it would be funny if joe went sicko mode on this precedent and did some housecleaning to demonstrate materially why and how the supreme court made a massive mistake.
psivchaz@reddthat.com 5 months ago
He won’t but it seems win/win to me.
- I mean, he’s not long for this world so he won’t even really have to deal with the consequences.
- He’ll definitely end up in the history books for centuries.
- We wouldn’t have to deal with Trump anymore.
- The Republican party would be in chaos.
- There would almost certainly be a bipartisan push for a constitutional amendment to limit the ability of the President to do shit like that in the future.
The only potential downside I can see is that they might use Trump as a martyr to get someone even crazier and probably smarter elected.
TinyBreak@aussie.zone 5 months ago
They’re all acting like they DONT live in a country of gun loving nut jobs. How much furthers it gotta go before someone decides to become a martyr on either side and try “solve the problem” with a rifle?
Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oh yeah, the end of democracy and the peaceful transition of power, and the beginning of outright fascism. So funny! Haha.
ceiphas@lemmy.world 5 months ago
so biden has now the permit to kill trump? did i read that correctly?
eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes. He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
AIhasUse@lemmy.world 5 months ago
No, it’s presidential actions, not personal ones. It’s being reported horribly because of the whole thing where everyone thinks that anyone not on their team is terrifying, so it justifies saying absolutely anything to try to win people over to their side.
TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s so laughably easy to spin it’s not a distinction worth even noting. “Oh so-and-so is a clear and present danger to the country, so in my official capacity as protector of the Constitution of the United States I have ordered his termination”. Bam, it’s now an official act.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I assure you that attempting to overturn a court and Congress certified vote of the people in order to retain power is a personal action, and not a presidential action. The president is to preserve democracy, not destroy it.
medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
So does anyone know what Trump is going to use instead of a swastika? Like a big “T” with an eagle on it? Something that looks nice on a brown shirt, or the side of the van that will round up his detractors in 2025? This is 1933 all over.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
He will never use symbolism, since it doesn’t focus enough on him. It will always be his name. So I guess it would just be something like the Trump Enforcement Squad, if it ever happened.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
–Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45
There will never be a clear and indisputable moment in which they’ve gone too far, but this moment seems pretty clear to me.
Minarble@aussie.zone 5 months ago
Biden is 81 For the good of America he should just resign himself to eating Trump. The only consequences he would now face are indigestion.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 months ago
He should turn this supreme court decision against Trump
galoisghost@aussie.zone 5 months ago
He just needs to turn the decision against the Supreme Court itself. He won’t do shit though and will find himself in dying in jail
Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It will never happen. The Dems insist on playing by a rule book that isn’t being enforced, that the opposing team burned and used the ashes as warpaint.