How many people actually want fully on-site IT jobs?

Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨BurningnnTree@lemmy.one⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

I’ve been looking for a new job as a software developer. The huge majority of job listings I see in my area are hybrid or remote. I just had an introductory phone call with Vizio (which didn’t specify the location type in the job listing). The recruiter told me that the job was fully on-site, which I told her was a deal breaker for me.

It makes me wonder how many other people back out after hearing that the job is on-site. And it makes me wonder why this wasn’t specified in the job description. I assume most people only want hybrid or remote jobs these days, right?

Anyways I was just wondering how many of you guys apply for on-site IT jobs? Hybrid is so much better, I don’t know why people would apply for on-site jobs unless they have no other options.

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andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I prefer to work in the office.

Lower utility bills for me. What little I spend in gas, yeah it’s a no brainier.

Also as the chair/desk/etc wears out, the company pays for it. It’s not like they give me the difference if I work from home.

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- CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What’s wrong with LED lights?
  
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  - andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Most companies put in lights that run at 5000 kelvin. So they appear to be white or even slightly blue in color. It’s hard on the eyes.
    
    Plus most of them have to show of a refresh. So I see a flicker. Think a strobe light and move your hand in front of your eyes. That shudder or screen door effect that you would see. That’s what I see when I’m around led lights.
    
    Most companies refuse to invest in better lights.
    
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OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That’s weird it wasn’t in the job posting. Seems like they’re wasting their time talking to candidates that aren’t interested in on-site.

I only want remote. The company I work for was once extremely remote friendly. Like 75% of job postings from them were for remote. Now they’ve changed to hybrid or fully on-site at the word from the CEO and like only 5% of open roles are remote.

They kept me remote, but my interactions with others are much less remote friendly. I’m looking for a new job, but will have to be for a company that is mostly remote itself.

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Magister@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Software developer here, WFH since March 2020, I don’t want to go back to office. If I would apply for a new job, my first question would be “is this 99% remote?” because I don’t mind once a month going there from like 10 to 2 to avoid trafic jam.

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AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I hope to never go back to office. Remote has been a life changer. I have time to keep weeds out of my garden. The flexibility to have workers at my house whenever they are available. The freedom to set up my desk how I like it. Time to eat breakfast. I don’t get headaches every day any more from the lighting. I get to go outside during breaks for some sunshine time. I’m here when the kids come home.

My work is more focused. No more road stress. I may be able to move to a place I can tolerate. No more wearing makeup that is bad for my skin. No more having to pack a lunch. My life is infinitely better without having to commute.

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blahsay@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Full remote all the way.

Demand that in your contracts so you have flexibility. Then it’s a choice not an obligation to come to the office.

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1984@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m also trying hard to avoid being in the office, even taking pay cuts for it. I can’t sit in a damn office and write code.

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Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
People want to be paid. Period. Anyone who tells you they won’t take a job because it’s not remote is a liar. Either that or they are privately wealthy and can afford to not work until their unicorn job appears.

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- neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  When I was looking for a new job a couple years ago I turned down a lot of on-site and hybrid job for the sole reason that they weren’t fully remote. Some of the jobs actually interested me and I would have loved to take at the time. And I can assure you I am far from wealthy.
  
  Working from home I get to see my wife during the day, play with my son whenever I want, make my own lunch in my kitchen, water my garden during the day, work outside if I want to.
  
  The peace of mind that it brings me is worth $400k. That’s the minimum I would take to go into the office no more than 30 minutes away once a week at most.
  
  I know that’s unrealistic but so is making employees go into the office for something they’re fully capable of doing at home.
  
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  - Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You are just a liar bud. If nothing else you are lying to yourself.
    
    If you were out of work and were offered an office position you would take it. The fact that you have a family makes it even more certain.
    
    Don’t misunderstand my comment. I never said you have to like the job or even keep it. If you were out of work you would accept the position until you found a better offer. You don’t stay jobless when you have no money.
    
    Obviously when you have a job you would pass on a job that doesn’t meet your expectations, that’s common sense. My comment was meant more towards being on the hunt while unemployed. Even still if the money was right I guarantee you would take an office job. Your wife wouldn’t let you turn it down. Money talks and people that want to pretend they are above it are lying to themselves.
    
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- HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  lol ok boomer
  
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Weirdfish@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The office is 3 day a week onsite, w Mon and Fri remote.

I have to be on site Tue - Thur to support the users.

I go in most Mon and Fri because it’s the only time I know I have physical access to the systems.

My support work is largely “remote”, in that I can manage my systems 99% of the time better from my office than in the room, and I really like my setup.

Aside from physically rebooting hardware that’s too frozen to reboot remotely, or replacing defective hardware, I can work 100% from anywhere I have internet.

Thing is, I love the company I work for, the end users and various IT and facilities staff that support my work are all great people.

The only close friends I have all moved far away decades ago, so the “water cooler” is the only real social interaction I get.

I do spend a ridiculous amount to live 15 minutes from the office so the commute isn’t a concern.

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- corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I have to be on site Tue - Thur to support the users.
  
  My current day-job went from 100% get-in-that-chair-and-straighten-that-tie to 100% get-out-now on CoViD day 1. It was a rapid adjustment, to say the least; and the shit managers who needed to stare at asses all day to feel better just … left. They’ve since sold most of the office space but for some meeting space, 2 hotel spaces for those who prefer it, and one rotating helldesk dude to receive Fedex.
  
  Supporting users? Onsite? Nope. It’s 100% remote service, and for the rare cases where it needs physical interaction with a component, the user and gear comes to the office and the onsite helldesk stuckee works it over. For those of us far-remote (regs are anywhere in the country, so long as the internet’s clean) we cross-ship for cheap or bring it to one of a very few deputized-for-secret-squirrel shops. I have a docking port-replicator I’m waiting on a shipper label for, for instance.
  
  TL;DR - you don’t need to be onsite to support remote workers. That whole “bodies in the same room” thing is gone.
  
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EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There is one reason I think onsite works, and that’s for relocation.

If you are from the US and you want to move to the UK, how do you intend to move via work if your work is remote?

I love remote work, but I’ve not heard a rebuttal for this other than “don’t let foreigners move here” or “let’s let people move based on their level of education”.

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- bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s entirely possible that people can work remote but still relocate to an area where the company has a presence. For example, they may not be set up to pay taxes in a certain jurisdiction. For example, my company could not hire Canadian residents until we had a legal entity in Canada. Thankfully we bought a cabadieb firm.
  
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  - EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Why would a company decide to grant you a working visa when you will primarily be remote? Furthermore, why would the government grant you a visa when you could, in theory, work from your own country?
    
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ElderberryLow@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I wouldn’t back out automatically. It depends on the situation for me. I did a fully on-site job in the role I had right before my current and it was worth it. Now I’m in the office usually 60% of the time. It’s not for everyone, but I would not immediately shut down a job opportunity just because it’s 100% on site.

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