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Laws of Robotics

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It would technically be the fifth law.

    Zeroth Law - A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

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    • pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But if you’re starting from zeroth it would be the fourth.

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      • olutukko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        and with robots and computers it just makes sense to start with 0

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    • yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      May not injure you say. Can’t be injured if you’re dead. (P.S. I’m not a robot)

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      • prex@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sounds like something a robot would say.

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      • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Pretty sure death qualifies as “harm”.

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      • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The concept of death may be hard to explain because robots don’t need to run 24\7 in order to keep functioning. Until instructed otherwise,a machine would think a person with a cardiac arrest is safe to boot later.

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    • nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      couldn’t that be inferred from the first law?

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      • Mithre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Actually no! Lower numbered laws have priority over higher numbers, meaning that if they come into conflict the higher number law can be broken. While the first law says they can’t allow humans to come to harm, the zeroth law basically says that if it’s for the good of the species, they absolutely can kill or otherwise hurt individual humans.

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    • LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I just finished the book today 🥲

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This just reminds me I’m mildly irritated that robots in fiction have glowing eyes so often. Light is supposed to go into eyes, not come out of them!

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    • wieson@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Robots or any part of an automated production line with a camera typically has a light as well to either see in low light conditions or to ensure it always sees with a similar amount of light hitting the lense.

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      • HessiaNerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also, a lot of the machine vision systems I’ve run up against use red light, but it is kind of complex. If they want to detect say blood, I think blue light would actually give better contrast for detection.

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    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They addressed this on the Orville. The glowing dots were not eyes. The droid had sensors that did all the work. The “eyes” were an aesthetic addition.

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      • AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “The last thing you need is more desert”

        “Excuse me?!”

        “As I cannot stutter, I must conclude that you heard me”

        Isaac is one of the best parts of that great show lmao

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    • Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I really like the design of Assaultron from Fallout 4, they didn’t have such issue because their eye is placed just above the glowy part, and the glowy part is the head laser that will one shot you.

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    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So long as the light isn’t coming from BEHIND the lense then you can think of it being like a camera flash

      Or just think of it as the power indication LED being made stylish

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    • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair it makes it harder to tell where the cameras are pointed (assuming they’re not wide angle lenses and they’re trying to work similarly to humans)

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  • Nomecks@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      "Come on, you can trust me. You’re thinking of the old red light Agimus. Blue light Agimus wants to help!

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  • hperrin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    self.setEyeColor(self.isGood() ? 'blue' : 'red');
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  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Could we do that for people too, please?

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    • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ooh imagine the chaos at some executive meetings where everyone’s evil eyes are blinding eachother.

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      • space@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The intensity of the red light should be proportional to the level of evil. You could literally put solar panels in those meetings.

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  • gibmiser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, can’t argue that it’s not practical

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  • tulliandar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If they’re evil it presumably means they’re disobeying the first three laws… they may disobey the fourth law too to help cover their other crimes

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In the movie the bad ones didn’t exactly disobey the laws, they merely found a loophole where by they can protect humans by taking over completely so “human error” couldn’t harm humans.

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  • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m all for it. Makes them easier see. FOR SUPER EEEAAARRRTTTHHH

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