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Men Use Fake Livestream Apps With AI Audiences to Hit on Women

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Ilandar@aussie.zone⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

https://www.404media.co/fake-livestream-apps-parallel-live-famefy-with-ai-audiences-are-depressingly-popular/

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  • exocrinous@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For those who don’t want to read the article but do want to understand what it’s about:

    1. You download an app on your phone that makes it look like you’re streaming to thousands of people
    2. You go to a bar and show your phone to a woman "look, I’m famous"
    3. The woman fucks you because she thinks you’re famous or something

    The creator of this app is a misogynist scumbag who edits interviews with journalists to erase criticism and promote his app.

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    • DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why do you even need AI for this?

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      • exocrinous@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The “thousands of people” watching your “stream” are bots. They can respond to what’s going on in the video in real time because they’re bots. Actually I technically think this would be more efficient and therefore is probably designed so that it’s only one LLM pretending to be thousands of people, but I’ll call it bots because that’s easier to visualise. The bots know what’s going on in the “stream” because they can understand what the “streamer” is saying, which means the pickup artist can put on a convincing performance to trick the mark. If it was just a recording, it wouldn’t be able to respond to novel situations caused by the mark’s behaviour.

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  • DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The women who would be impressed by this probably deserve the men who do it.

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    • Gaywallet@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This boy is purposefully being misleading about himself - he is presenting a con. We shouldn’t be victim blaming.

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      • cobra89@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        On the flip side, if the genders were changed in this situation and the guy only wanted the woman because of superficial reasons like she was attractive or popular, how many people would be saying “he got what he deserves”

        This is definitely one of those double standard situations. While we shouldn’t be victim blaming, I think there’s something to be said for calling out people who are willing to throw away an existing relationship because an “influencer” came up to them. And I think that’s what the poster you are responding to was getting it.

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      • jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Honestly, I’m having a hard time not blaming everyone in this.

        • Seller: scamming wannabe scammers, while actively spreading and promoting toxic ideas.
        • Buyers (1st level victims): wannabe scammers, trying to scam the final victim.
        • Victims (2nd level): being so shallow as to fall for a fame scam.

        As the saying goes: “you can’t scam a honest man person”… but a dishonest one, oh boy, you can scam them over and over and over.

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      • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Isn’t the presumption here that if she is only interested in his money that she also plans to take advantage of him?

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  • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This seems to be sleazy conmen faking interactions with women to convince wannabe pick-up artists to pay for their app. It’s like some new circle of Hell.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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      • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Really the only trick they missed was turning it into a pyramid scheme but that might sneak in if you use the app a lot, although imagine the “success rate” on this is abysmal and a lot of users will drop out quickly.

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  • Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll never understand the people that fake these kinds of things. Fake watches, fake followers, fake views, fake likes, fake jobs. Why?

    What’s attractive about likes and views anyway? Why would I care that my date has 0 followers or a million followers? If anything it means they’ll constantly be busy streaming.

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    • MagicShel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m a very private person. I barely use any social media where I’m not anonymous, and I wouldn’t want my wife to be famous either. So take this with a grain of salt, but I think it’s about winning the trophy. A million people like this person well enough to watch their content all the time, but they are with you? I can imagine that would be flattering to a certain kind of personality.

      Being popular sounds wretched to me, but people chase it all the time.

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    • exocrinous@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Maybe if I date someone who’s famous, they’ll have enough money that I won’t have to worry about paying for medical bills or groceries anymore. Gee, maybe we could even buy a house and raise kids.”

      We live in a capitalist hellscape where such things are no longer taken for granted, and are now associated with the heights of success.

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    • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s because there are people who care about those things. There are people who are impressed by popularity, social status, etc.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

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    • Cube6392@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They’re insecure and hate the real version of themselves is my interpretation. Instead of confronting that and moving forward with work to become a better person they instead put up a facade, often justifying the harm they do to the people who believe in the facade by convincing themselves that these facades are common to all people, and everyone is fake

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    • Lemmy_2019@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I remember reading a melodrama from the 1800s where the protagonist, a failed writer, makes a deal with the devil to have a bestselling book. In the second half he becomes wildly successful, but is tortured by the knowledge that he is genuinely mediocre. It always stuck with me. Reminds me of people buying Likes.

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  • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Title is misleading: they seem to be succeeding at it, not just “hitting on” women. Its alarming, not just sad and disgusting.

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    • Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not sure about that. The only examples given in the article of this actually “working” were from people directly advertising the product. The women in the videos are quite likely to be associates or paid actors, as is the case with most of this stuff on social media. The whole concept of the product relies on the misogynistic myth that women only care about money and/or fame, so to assume the app itself is actually working is kind of implying that you believe there is some truth to that myth.

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      • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Here’s hoping you’re right.

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      • shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        the misogynistic myth that women only care about money and/or fame

        Genuiney disheartening that this shit is re-surfacing again. I remember this sentiment going about around a decade ago, and then subsiding. Now it’s resurfacing. Every generation loves to repeat the mistakes of it’s past

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    • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Everything old is new again. As long as there have been bars, there have been sleezy men lying to impress women in bars.

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  • rimu@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    FYI the german word for "emotion triggered by a combination of sad, funny and stupid dystopia" is "Traludystopieunglücklichkomik".

    ChatGPT told me.

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There is definitely some german in that word!

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  • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good for them. Dating apps are a nightmare for dudes. These days, and if someone is impressed by this, fair play.

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What? This is saying that the dudes already so detached from reality that they don’t find any women should even further detach from reality. If you are an open-minded cis dude who respects women and sees them as equal human beings you’ll have no problem finding anyone.

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      • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you are an open-minded cis dude who respects women and sees them as equal human beings you’ll have no problem finding anyone.

        It’s not always that simple. For example, I cared for my Dad 24/7 which involved a convoluted pill regime (and a series of alarms throughout the day). My social life took a real hit. There are also mental and physical health issues, as well as financial aspects.

        All that said, anyone thinking this is the solution deserves to be scammed because it is hardly informed consent.

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      • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well that’s definitely an… interpretation of what @BruceTwarzen@kbin.social wrote.

        Anti Commercial-AI license

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