The women who would be impressed by this probably deserve the men who do it.
Men Use Fake Livestream Apps With AI Audiences to Hit on Women
Submitted 11 months ago by Ilandar@aussie.zone to technology@beehaw.org
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DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Gaywallet@beehaw.org 11 months ago
This boy is purposefully being misleading about himself - he is presenting a con. We shouldn’t be victim blaming.
cobra89@beehaw.org 11 months ago
On the flip side, if the genders were changed in this situation and the guy only wanted the woman because of superficial reasons like she was attractive or popular, how many people would be saying “he got what he deserves”
This is definitely one of those double standard situations. While we shouldn’t be victim blaming, I think there’s something to be said for calling out people who are willing to throw away an existing relationship because an “influencer” came up to them. And I think that’s what the poster you are responding to was getting it.
jarfil@beehaw.org 11 months ago
Honestly, I’m having a hard time not blaming everyone in this.
- Seller: scamming wannabe scammers, while actively spreading and promoting toxic ideas.
- Buyers (1st level victims): wannabe scammers, trying to scam the final victim.
- Victims (2nd level): being so shallow as to fall for a fame scam.
As the saying goes: “you can’t scam a honest
manperson”… but a dishonest one, oh boy, you can scam them over and over and over.realitista@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Isn’t the presumption here that if she is only interested in his money that she also plans to take advantage of him?
Emperor@feddit.uk 11 months ago
This seems to be sleazy conmen faking interactions with women to convince wannabe pick-up artists to pay for their app. It’s like some new circle of Hell.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
big buy my course about selling courses vibes
Emperor@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Really the only trick they missed was turning it into a pyramid scheme but that might sneak in if you use the app a lot, although imagine the “success rate” on this is abysmal and a lot of users will drop out quickly.
Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 11 months ago
I’ll never understand the people that fake these kinds of things. Fake watches, fake followers, fake views, fake likes, fake jobs. Why?
What’s attractive about likes and views anyway? Why would I care that my date has 0 followers or a million followers? If anything it means they’ll constantly be busy streaming.
MagicShel@programming.dev 11 months ago
I’m a very private person. I barely use any social media where I’m not anonymous, and I wouldn’t want my wife to be famous either. So take this with a grain of salt, but I think it’s about winning the trophy. A million people like this person well enough to watch their content all the time, but they are with you? I can imagine that would be flattering to a certain kind of personality.
Being popular sounds wretched to me, but people chase it all the time.
exocrinous@startrek.website 11 months ago
“Maybe if I date someone who’s famous, they’ll have enough money that I won’t have to worry about paying for medical bills or groceries anymore. Gee, maybe we could even buy a house and raise kids.”
We live in a capitalist hellscape where such things are no longer taken for granted, and are now associated with the heights of success.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 months ago
It’s because there are people who care about those things. There are people who are impressed by popularity, social status, etc.
Cube6392@beehaw.org 11 months ago
They’re insecure and hate the real version of themselves is my interpretation. Instead of confronting that and moving forward with work to become a better person they instead put up a facade, often justifying the harm they do to the people who believe in the facade by convincing themselves that these facades are common to all people, and everyone is fake
Lemmy_2019@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I remember reading a melodrama from the 1800s where the protagonist, a failed writer, makes a deal with the devil to have a bestselling book. In the second half he becomes wildly successful, but is tortured by the knowledge that he is genuinely mediocre. It always stuck with me. Reminds me of people buying Likes.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Title is misleading: they seem to be succeeding at it, not just “hitting on” women. Its alarming, not just sad and disgusting.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I’m not sure about that. The only examples given in the article of this actually “working” were from people directly advertising the product. The women in the videos are quite likely to be associates or paid actors, as is the case with most of this stuff on social media. The whole concept of the product relies on the misogynistic myth that women only care about money and/or fame, so to assume the app itself is actually working is kind of implying that you believe there is some truth to that myth.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Here’s hoping you’re right.
shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org 11 months ago
the misogynistic myth that women only care about money and/or fame
Genuiney disheartening that this shit is re-surfacing again. I remember this sentiment going about around a decade ago, and then subsiding. Now it’s resurfacing. Every generation loves to repeat the mistakes of it’s past
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
Everything old is new again. As long as there have been bars, there have been sleezy men lying to impress women in bars.
rimu@piefed.social 11 months ago
FYI the german word for "emotion triggered by a combination of sad, funny and stupid dystopia" is "Traludystopieunglücklichkomik".
ChatGPT told me.
flora_explora@beehaw.org 11 months ago
There is definitely some german in that word!
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 11 months ago
Good for them. Dating apps are a nightmare for dudes. These days, and if someone is impressed by this, fair play.
flora_explora@beehaw.org 11 months ago
What? This is saying that the dudes already so detached from reality that they don’t find any women should even further detach from reality. If you are an open-minded cis dude who respects women and sees them as equal human beings you’ll have no problem finding anyone.
Emperor@feddit.uk 11 months ago
If you are an open-minded cis dude who respects women and sees them as equal human beings you’ll have no problem finding anyone.
It’s not always that simple. For example, I cared for my Dad 24/7 which involved a convoluted pill regime (and a series of alarms throughout the day). My social life took a real hit. There are also mental and physical health issues, as well as financial aspects.
All that said, anyone thinking this is the solution deserves to be scammed because it is hardly informed consent.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 months ago
Well that’s definitely an… interpretation of what @BruceTwarzen@kbin.social wrote.
exocrinous@startrek.website 11 months ago
For those who don’t want to read the article but do want to understand what it’s about:
The creator of this app is a misogynist scumbag who edits interviews with journalists to erase criticism and promote his app.
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Why do you even need AI for this?
exocrinous@startrek.website 11 months ago
The “thousands of people” watching your “stream” are bots. They can respond to what’s going on in the video in real time because they’re bots. Actually I technically think this would be more efficient and therefore is probably designed so that it’s only one LLM pretending to be thousands of people, but I’ll call it bots because that’s easier to visualise. The bots know what’s going on in the “stream” because they can understand what the “streamer” is saying, which means the pickup artist can put on a convincing performance to trick the mark. If it was just a recording, it wouldn’t be able to respond to novel situations caused by the mark’s behaviour.