Submitted 7 months ago by sleepybisexual@beehaw.org to gaming@beehaw.org
Its been a while since I played botw and totk, I want to get into similar open world games with good combat systems, any recommendations?
As for platforms, I need games that aren’t too intensive, my PCs are kinda weak and my consoles are a switch and an emulator that does up to GameCube/ps2
Perhaps you may or may not enjoy Space Asshole Red Faction: Guerilla. It’s a 2009 game that got a solid enough PC port that may run on weaker systems. There’s a remastered version but if you’re aiming for low-spec the original might be a better bet.
Anyway, it’s an open world set on Mars and you go around wreaking havoc and blowing up buildings with ahead-of-its-time physics/destruction mechanics. The combat is more like a shooter and you play with lots of explosives. It’s not a huge map by standards today but is a big enough playground to keep one occupied.
It’s also on the Switch!
I’ll never not upvote Red Faction.
Dark souls 1. No other game made exploring the world so exciting. I was checking every single nook and cranny because the game isn’t afraid to give you good gear if you look. The combat can be frustrating but the further you get the easier the game gets. Also definitely follow a build guide if it’s your first ds game.
Note that Dark Souls games are absolute Marmite. I’m aware that some people praise them as the greatest games ever made, but I had a terrible experience playing DS1 and have no desire to touch another one!
Have you looked at “immortals: Fenix rising”?
It has borrowed many elements from botw but with a lot of the “Ubisoft open world formula” on top. I really enjoyed it. The combat is deeper than botw in the traditional sense but I found it responsive and enjoyable. The “shrine” equivalents also had some interesting and unique challenges too.
Looks like a good game, just don’t have the power to run it and no way I’m giving Nintendo any more money
It’s an Ubisoft game but you can usually get it for pretty cheap second hand for your switch if you’re against giving Nintendo more money
I would recommend to play this on Switch though. That’s because, unlike the PC version, the Switch version can be played without an Ubisoft Account. All one has to do is to disconnect the Switch from the internet, and suddenly the game runs without login.
similar open world games with good combat systems,
This might be a tall order. Most of the “open world” games I’ve found either fall down in the open world department (lots of restricted areas or nothing varied/interesting enough to make exploring fun) or fall down in the combat department (awkward, unresponsive, or annoying in some other way.) Some high profile games even managed to suffer from both those problems (I’m looking at you, Geralt).
I hoped for quite a while that the next Elder Scrolls game would keep the good parts of Skyrim (beautiful environments and soundscapes full of unique things to discover) and add good combat, but recent showings from Bethesda make me less than optimistic.
I hope you get some good answers in this thread.
Ooh, more combat= better
What platforms are the older skyrim and elder scrolls games on? I don’t have the means for the switch version
Skyrim and the mainline Elder Scrolls games (Oblivion, Morrowind) can run fine on most setups these days. Skyrim: Special Edition was released in 2016, which is almost a decade ago now.
Problem with them is sometimes mods are required for performance because they can be optimised terribly. There are actually some good mods which make the games play a lot better on older hardware, actually, but it’s been a while and I don’t remember them.
Still, you’re going to want to play mostly un-modded because too many mods will tank an older system. I personally think vanilla Skyrim can be pretty fun, so it’s not a big deal, IMO.
The combat is a huge con, though. Bethesda hasn’t ever really been “good” at melee combat, and have only started to improve their gunplay starting with Fallout 4.
That said, since I’ve brought up FO4, Fallout 3 and New Vegas should run fine pretty much anything. Although, when I say “fine”, I mainly mean “work”, because optimisation is still terrible and bugfix patches might be needed.
Assassin’s Creed 1 and 2. I’ve also heard good things about Morrowind but haven’t played it.
Morrowind is a great game, Worth a try if you’re willing to watch some videos on how to play. Its a bit unforgiving to newcomers who don’t know how to build a proper class yet.
If I’m an experienced D&D player, will I need to worry about knowing how to build a class? I didn’t have any problems understanding KOTOR’s character creation, and I actually prefer Mass Effect 1’s combat and levelling over 2.
Assassins Creed 1&2 are not really open world games comparable with BoTW or ToTK. The world is much smaller and everything is far more linear. The combat system is also not extremely great. You can mainly just wait for counters constantly.
That said, I still enjoyed the games (especially 2) a lot. But it is more the fun climbing action and fairly good storytelling.
Skyrim might be possible, but I have not played it personally. The witcher is available on the Switch as well.
Baldur’s Gate 3 isn’t exactly open world in the strictest sense, but the maps are so massive that you can get the same sense of wonder and exploration as something like Skyrim or BoTW.
Game looks good, but I doubt I can run it
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I think I spend 40h on the first chapter map and still think I missed a lot.
So yeah I can confirm there is a lot to discover and there are some really awesome story moments. You just need some time to understand the DnD ruleset.
Not precisely open world but has the same feeling of exploration, discovery and unlocking, Supraland. Harder puzzles, unlock things that make combat easier. Combat is pretty similar to botw.
Yeah, don’t underestimate the Supra- series of games. I thought Supraland looked childish, but then I started playing it and couldn’t stop. It’s SO fun.
The jokes are hit and miss, but the interconnected world, steady progression and cool mechanics make it stand out. And you can freely draw on the map to mark points of interest!
There are currently 3 games out in the series, with 4th (Supraworld) being in the works.
What platforms is it on
Bethesda has a large selection of open world games, but I pretty much assume people have played all of them (Elder Scrolls / Fallout games).
If you are okay with going outside of Fantasy, the Far Cry series has some impressive technology in their older titles. Far Cry 2 is a personal favorite, your PC might be able to handle it.
Borderlands series.
The original Dragons Dogma: Dark Arisen holds up. This is probably my best recommendation based on your asks.
Lego Star Wars or the Lego Marvel game.
Fable 1, 2, 3
The Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor / Shadow of War Games were pretty incredible but might be too high-end.
The first Red Dead Redemption might run for you.
From here, I would start listing old Star Wars Jedi Knight series games.
I could probably go on, but this is most of the good stuff off the top of my head.
Seconding Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen. I have it on GOG, it’s absolutely fantastic (apparently the pawn rental system is broken on that version, but I never used it anyway). Climbing up a drake to stab it in the face has never been so satisfying! and magic archer is OP
It’s also old enough that OP’s hardware shouldn’t have any trouble running it at decent settings.
I just finished playing Horizon: Zero Dawn for the second time and it was way more engaging than I remember it being back in 2017. Apparently a lot of reviews ragged on it for “not being Breath of the Wild” which is a lame thing to complain about, even if the game came out at the same time, and they share a lot of thematic elements (like heavily focusing on archery, fighting ancient machines, exploring a beautiful world, etc.).
But it’s a very different game, very narrative heavy, very beautiful, and very well-optimized on PC. The combat is very focused and fun in a good way.
I affectionately refer to it as live action breath of the wild
That’s perfect. I don’t think there could be a better way to describe it in one sentence. It’s also a fun spin on the “like skyrim with guns” oversimplification lol
My god, do this one. I have like 800 hours into this game. It’s amazing.
I finally picked up the Glass Cannon perk for my first time last night, and died from accidentally launching a default/starter bomb.
I don’t know how weak you’re talking, but Horizon Zero Dawn has that same engaging, high skill ceiling combat that BOTW/TOTK does. The minimum specs don’t look too bad, and the game is quite well optimised. Forbidden West is probably a no-go, though, and it’s a much better game which serves as a true direct sequel. They’re great if you like story, too.
Everyone else has already made great suggestions too. This was the only different suggestion I could make.
Looks good but yea, too weak
Tho it is a good game, played some on my sousins ps4 1 time
I played all of Horizon Zero Dawn on a Steam Deck, so it might work for you. You can get it for like $10 on key resell websites
Others have mentioned Elder Scrolls, but nobody recommended Daggerfall yet, so it’s one of my picks. Yes, the 1996 game, which you can play on Unity for a much, much better experience overall. Since the game is free, you don’t need to pay a thing. Combat won’t feel good, tho.
If you enjoy space games, X3 Albion Prelude might be a good option. It’s “open world” in that you can go anywhere right from the start, but the main gist of the game is to get rich so you can get the capital ships. Ship to ship combat is fine, each ship class has strengths and weaknesses. It has a learning curve and can feel needlessly convoluted at times
Kingdoms of Amalur isn’t really open world, but its combat is awesome. Get the original, non-remastered version, and it should run on your stronger PC, hopefully.
which you can play on Unity for a much, much better experience overall
How?
I put the link on the Daggerfall word, it’s this one - www.dfworkshop.net
My somewhat controversial suggestion is outward. Low graphical intensity PC game, very open world, and some incredibly unique and polarizing design choices. If your favorite part of breath of the wild was world exploration and korok finding, you may love it! If you like quality of life features though, maybe not.
Things like, you have a world map but no “you are here” marker so need to place yourself with landmarks. You need to drop your backpack to fight effectively and remember where you dropped it, the magic system is based on insomnia with the longer since you slept the more mana you have until you push it too far and just collapse. Really really weird game that I still think about all the time years later.
What platforms is it on?
It a fairly low intensity PC game
You might really enjoy DayZ. The public servers are pretty brutal, but if you find a comfortable RP server you can settle in and really enjoy exploring the landscape. Once you’re used to the mechanics it’s so smooth.
Stereo headphones or even like monitors make hunting a lot of fun, listening to distant sounds trying to find a deer or boar is a lot of fun. And once you’re used to dealing with zombies and the sthough.l mechanics, crafting and all that, it really opens up.
Plus the ability to expand it with modding is pretty extensive. We’ve got some neat stuff on our own server (though not much pop atm), and I’ve seen others that do some next level stuff like player vampires and werewolves and stuff.
Even just the vanilla game is absolutely gorgeous though. If you like exploring, scavenging, and crafting, especially with friends, it’s kind of perfect.
It’s not Zelda like, but if you like factory games, Satisfactory is as close to open world as a factory game gets. You land on a planet and have to build a factory to launch things into space for corporate overlords. It’s first person, lots of climbing and building. There’s a tiny bit of combat, not the focus tho.
What are the exact specs (CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD yes or no) of your PCs? “Kinda weak” kinda covers an enormous and very subjective spectrum.
My laptops are the following
A 4 GB ram celeron HDD laptop and an 8 GB ram with a ryzen of some kind. It was a ryzen 5 I think, the better laptop has an nvme
Warframe might fit what you’re looking for.
It has an overarching story and story missions, it’s combat oriented, it has one of the least-predatory F2P models I can think of, and it has both open world zones and “interior” missions.
Best of all, it runs on potatoes. Might be worth looking into.
Another option is maybe Monster Hunter Rise, but I’ve only played a demo, and you have to consider Capcom’s aggressive anti-cheat back porting.
Last one you might not have considered is Halo Infinite. I played the entire campaign with a Ryzen 5600G on medium settings and got ≈45-55fps. It’s very well optimized and should run fine on weaker hardware.
Ooh, older monstar hunter games are an option. Thx for the idea
Piggybacking on my genshin suggestion, another suggestion would be Guild Wars 2? It’s world is more open than most MMOs and since it’s over a decade old there’s a ton of content there. There’s a lot as a free2play player, but you can buy expansions if you want even more to explore, and I genuinely think gw2’s exploration is best-in-class. It’s also benefitted by being an old game in terms of old computers being able to run it, you’d probably have to play on low graphics but it’ll certainly run. Hope that’s more useful if you dont wanna do gacha stuff like genshin!
Second for guild wars 2, the world is huge when you first start playing, and though the initial levelling experience can feel like it takes a while, once you have hit the cap you can go pretty much anywhere. The story is pretty linear, though, so if you want a deep and complex story it might be better to look for a single player game.
I’d also say the combat system in Guild wars is fantastic, it’s simple enough to pick up and not have to stress about playing the game, but if you want to engage and get better there is so much to learn about and improve.
I’ll look into it
On the switch you have Skyrim (but I’m assuming you’ve played that)
But also there’s a couple games that could be worth looking into. I have no idea how well they play on the switch or if they would even be your cup of tea, but there’s Dragons Dogma(the first one) and also Outward. Again no idea how they play on switch but they’re both open world rpg type games.
If you’re up for something that is specifically all about exploring, you could try Outer wilds on the switch
I would recommend to play Skyrim on PC though. Even if your computer is old, you should be able to get a much better experience from it than the Switch version.
I mean, I played it on the Xbox 360, and it worked like a charm. On an ancient three-core console with 256 MiB of RAM.
Then I wanted to replay it on the Switch, and was disappointed. There are a lot of physics glitches on the Switch, but what is worse is that the NPC pathfinding takes a lot longer on the Switch, such that NPCs move in nonsensical directions during combat, as they start to follow paths that they would have needed several seconds earlier. Instead of moving near the player to attack, they move near the position where the player had been some time ago. This is particularly bad on the overworld, but also noticeable in dungeons.
Might I recommend Romancing SaGa 3 and SaGa Scarlet Grace Ambitions? Both of these games involve non-linear, open world explorations. As for combat, they are turn-based, so I’m not sure if that’s what you would consider a “good” combat system. Also, unlike traditional RPGs, which use a point-based system to level up and gain new skills, SaGa games involve a “Spark” system, where new techniques are learned randomly or through use of an existing technique during battles.
What platforms are the games on?
I think RS3 is on Steam, PlayStation, Switch, and Xbox, while Scarlet Grace is on all those platforms except Xbox.
pixel@pawb.social 7 months ago
In all honesty, genshin impact is a pretty reasonable facsimile of that sort of game. It’s really grown into its own, and it’s really fun and absolutely massive
That said, I’d only advise it if you are 100% confident you won’t engage in any of the gacha systems – you can play and enjoy the game with the free characters the game gives you, but once you start engaging with the gacha that can be a really dangerous slippery slope. If that’s something that you could fall prey to, I wouldn’t recommend it. But if you think you can play it without investing any money (or, really, more money than you can afford, I don’t know your financial situation) it’s actually a really great time, and the story’s only gotten better as it’s gone on. There’s definitely some stipulations with it, but it’s worth experiencing if you feel like those are acceptable
sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Played genshin before, its an OK game but especially as f2p it’s way to grindy,
No idea what I was expecting lol
pixel@pawb.social 7 months ago
that’s totally fair. I think you can do most of the story and exploration stuff without grinding much but if even that is too much grinding it’s probably not worth the effort. Hope you find what you’re looking for!
ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 7 months ago
+1 for Genshin. While I think your gacha warning is excellent I do want to point out that the amount of resources you get for getting characters is more than enough to clear all story content. Hell if you’re a good player you could probably clear the whole game without using a single primogem, not even the countless thousands you get along the way.
And massive is also the understatement of the year. There is voiced content here that dwarfs even whole trilogies. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more recorded lines than all of Dragon Age and Mass Effect put together. And the story is likely not even at the halfway point yet, there’s still years to go. Closest analogy would probably be SWTOR, the MMO, but with much better combat.