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Why do people around me tend to increase their responsibility load (i.e. have children, become a manager, do charity, etc.) while I (30M) try to avoid it as much as I can?

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What people want in life often comes from what they experienced themselves previously. You mentioned charity. I’ve put 13 years of my life into being a scouts group leader, organizimg weekly meetups, many events and multiple scout camps a year. I’m very passionate about this, since I’ve got so much out of being a scout since I was 7, growing up with a community, that was meaningful and not harsh and punishing as school. I wanted tp give these experience back to the next scout generation. And during my time as scout group leader I could grew even more, making my own life better through helping others. Soon I will shift my focus away from the scouts (currently its too much together with work; also I want kids soon).

    I’m not saying, that you need to do this. I just wanted to explain where my motivation comes from. I get a sense of fulfilment and I’m proud of what I’ve done and I’m proud of the kids, that I saw growing up and now being group leaders themselves.

    Finding something, that you are passionate about is very important. It doesn’t need to include external responsibilities. Taking responsibility for your own self, like putting in hard work to learn a new skill, can be as fulfilling as the above.

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  • jeremyparker@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We don’t do it for the purpose of increasing responsibility. I mean , I didn’t, maybe other people do. I just really wanted a couple little mini monsters following me around.

    When I was like 30, I was out hiking and I saw some guy with three little kids, the kids were hopping from rock to rock, and the littlest one ran up past the siblings to hold the dad’s hand. It was super cute. My parents were kinda uninterested and afk, so I haven’t seen a lot of examples of dads just having fun with their kids.

    That little family was inspiring, in the sense that it opened my mind to a new way of thinking, but also in the sense of taking in breath, it felt like I had been holding my breath and finally stopped. I realized I didn’t necessarily have to be like them, I could use their bad/mediocre parenting as a “what not to do” list, and still do some of the things that they did that were good. I could go hiking with my kids, I could teach them how to build a campsite out of nothing, or how to build a server, or how to put your thumb on the end of a house so it sprays really far.

    Sure it’s more responsibility but it’s also really fun.

    And, tbh, all the nice things in life are even nicer if you can share it with people. That goes double for kids, because they don’t know how shitty the world is. You just gotta make sure they understand and appreciate the fun stuff and don’t get spoiled.

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  • whoreticulture@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you have anything you care about? I take on volunteer tasks for causes I care about. Other people care about family, their workplace, etc. It just seems like you aren’t strongly motivated by anything besides personal comfort?

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  • Senseless@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I dunno man. Would be too much hassle for me. I’m in my 30s and struggle not falling into depression every time I get friend zoned, which happens all the time. Dating sucks. I just want to be loved. Having children, being a manager (especially in my field / NGO where politics is a big part of the job) is just way too stressful.

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    • ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I'm a greasy overweight diesel tech. Stop saying friend zone. That is an easy way to never get with someone. Get a hobby that you like and learn to talk about it without being a snob.

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      • Senseless@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I won’t. I have hobbies. I have hobbies I’m passionate about. If it doesn’t click for other people but it does for me but they still don’t have a problem with being friends what else should it be called other than friend zone?

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  • Lizardking27@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • Crikeste@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The only person not growing up is you, you judgmental freak.

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  • breakingcups@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You may be a perfectionist who’s so afraid of failure that it currently (rationally or irrationally) outweighs the motivation to succeed by a significant margin. You’d like to do some bigger things in life but you self-sabotage by distracting yourself because the thought of actually doing things is way too scary / stressful.

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    • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Armchair therapist much? To me the examples given in the post specifically aren’t about success, they’re about the things people that do not directly count as success but that do require you to devote at least part of your life to it.

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  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Different people find joys in different things (some people get more out of charity than they put in)… and different people have a different capacity for stress and energy.

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  • jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Everyone values different things. Personally, I’m not quite ready for kids (even though past the age where my parents had kids and some of my friends/colleagues my age have kids, about your age), but I’m ready to take on more at work. I find it rewarding and I can make more money. And although money doesn’t create happiness, it buys some dope shit. And not advancing at work just gets boring and repetitive.

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  • yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Those people have bought into the grind culture and will probably get burnt out

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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think our culture teaches many of us that a good life means excelling and success in all facets of life. If you win everything, surely you would be happy!

    IMO the trick is to realize that you have a budget for your attention and energy. Figure out what matters to you, not what you are supposed to care about. Figure out what future you will be glad you did.

    For me, this involved leaning into some responsibilities that bring me joy (family, pets, learning for its own sake, hobbies, etc). It meant not putting as much mental energy into things that I’m supposed to be very concerned about because life reasons, but which are neutral to negative on my actual mental state (get into management, focus on learning job-related or money-making things, size of house/cars/yard, etc).

    Don’t get me wrong, I love my job and I work with great people. But at the same time, for a couple years now, I’ve spent more time thinking about upgrades to the pond in my back yard than my career development. And I wouldn’t be writing this if I wasn’t better for it.

    Standard disclaimer: we are all different. Somebody who gets genuine fulfillment from hammering away at their career is not necessarily a bad thing.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Cos you’re a lazy bastard, like me.

    Nothing wrong with it. Fill your time and life however you want.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t like it when I don’t have some challenges or goals in life, I don’t like feeling like I’m just coasting along. I’ll try a new sport etc so I have a project, and I do a bit of volunteer work towards getting people involved in sports I do.

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  • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Doing charity doesn’t require increased responsibility.

      In my experience, it does. I used to do some charity work for Ukrainian refugees: delivering medicine, helping with warehousing, buying suitcases for those who want to go further. That’s not an easy one, and it has hella pressure on you, basically because these people do not have a lot of people who would help them.

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  • mojo_raisin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Multiple reasons

    1. We are living beings driven to reproduce, some more than others obviously.

    2. Because that is the cultural plan we are trained to follow. You, like me, probably live in a capitalist society, everything about our existence is for the enrichment of our rulers, so that means the more you and your kids generate, the more there is for our rulers to take from us.

    Never let anyone call you lazy. Lazy people are not the ones destroying the planet.

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  • dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because they get a touch of Maslows disease

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