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• Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Hahaha the act of moving without going anywhere is very enjoyable”

  - The slug

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• gibmiser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Graph break makes it look a lot closer than it is.

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  • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    OK, but still, that slug was on that exercise wheel way more than anyone would expect a slug to be on one of those things

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  • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How so? I am but a peasant farmer and know little of the interpretation of graphs

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    • big_slap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the graph for mice on the left has a break between .10 and .80. see the little squiggly thing? if that break was not there, the mice bar would be wayyyy higher than the other bars.

      I don’t think it’s meant to be misleading.

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    • Ensign_Seitler@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It looks to me as if 0.10 to 0.80 takes up as much vertical space as 0.01 to 0.02. They “yadda yadda‘d” the middle values because mouse was the only one that went that high.

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    • Freeman@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Every farmer queues his cows up in one line. So there are several lines of cows. Now one rich farmer owns a lot more cows than the other, poor farmers.

      Someone wants to make a photo from above and has a problem: Either the long lines of the rich guys cows wont fit in the picture or he has to zoom out so far that the short lines arent really visible anymore.

      So now if you leave out a bunch of cows from the long line and add a indicator, that there are left out cows. The numbers on the left make it that it still is correct and readable altho the longest line/bar is shorter.

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    • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They chopped out the middle section of the chart, so slugs actually look 12x larger than they should. In fact, all the other bars are 12x larger than they actually should be v

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• PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This just reminds me that bumble bees will play with small wooden beads if they’re left out, mostly just rolling them about aimlessly and sometimes jumping on them because apparently they are amused by it rolling over with them on top of it.

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  • Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is too cute, it can’t possibly be true. I demand pictures and videos!

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    • nyctre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      youtu.be/Ghws6YFsPJA?si=f-m6pOkJcqQBLzrk

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• marcos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is this running distance? That’s a completely unfair metric for the slug.

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  • KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Slugs to be you then, I guess. :P

    In all seriousness, the graph shows different species as fraction of total uses recorded. Since the paper is mostly about mice, and behavioural differences under different circumstances, it being unfair to the slugs is probably not such a big deal here.

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• witty_username@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The paper:
  dx.doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2014.0210

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  • PolistesPicante@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was just going to ask if someone would post the paper - thank you so much!

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• helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The one snail “I dont get it, why’s everyone getting on this thing, its jus…oh god I’m sinking through these gaps! What devil made this contraption!!!”

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• Figureinplastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Go snail!

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• Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If the wheel were big enough, I bet humans would use it too.

  spoiler

  It’s me, I’m that human.

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  • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They have these at some playgrounds here. It’s pretty fun!

    Until you fall over.

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    • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ideally the wheel should be big enough for a single human but not so big that it can fit multiple humans.

      Source: I was once a child on a wheel big enough for multiple humans.

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  • autokludge@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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• Schwaye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Seems to be the video of the experiment: youtu.be/TbB1FJB6Y0s?si=TpL_0P7faMhgOVZM

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  • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Link with site tracking removed: youtu.be/TbB1FJB6Y0s

    I am not a bot, and this action was performed manually.

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    • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      good hooman

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    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      YLTSI

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• Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This will become a new source for energy in the future.

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  • monomon@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah all this free energy waiting to be harvested

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• cheerjoy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I didn’t see the word wheel at first and was concerned

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• friendly_ghost@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Economists are probably mad about this

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• LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I keep saying this and people say I’m crazy, but whales, elephants, and some other animals for sure have religion (a codified mythos of spirituality passed down through generations). Our experience is not remotely unique.

  Recent studies show that birds, whales, and many other animals use consistent grammar and have accents. They’re not just making mindless sounds, they’re communicating with purpose. We’ve documented empathy in several other species. Some other species outperform us in memory and certain cognitive tests.

  And many animals have been observed objectively playing and having fun. It’s pretty narcissistic to think we’re that much more advanced than other animals. Just because our culture places great emphasis on our ability to manipulate our environment doesn’t mean those that don’t aren’t as ‘evolved’ as we are. That’s very egotistical, and has led to some of our subcultures oppressing even other humans that lived nomadically or with nature as ‘subhuman’.

  Wanting our cheese wrapped in plastic doesn’t make us more highly evolved. We’re just as evolved as everything else alive right now, and of course it’s probable that some other animals appreciate fun. It’s a concept even our newborns understand. It’s ludicrous to assume otherwise, imo.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve seen some of the stuff pointing toward some of this but… What can be shown to substantiate the religion thing?

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    • LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some pods of whales will revisit certain coordinates yearly, or on longer timelines that are extremely regular , where there’s no discernible reason – no food, they’re not mating, etc – linger for a while, then leave. They don’t do anything special there but vocalise more, and they’ll put off hunting for this social interaction. It’s reminiscent of early human history when we were nomadic and would sometimes gather, foregoing hunts in favour of sharing stories, often in the form of legends. Our earliest mythologies and spiritualism grew from this, and there’s no reason to discount they’re so different from early hominins.

      Elephants have been known for revisiting the bones of family members for decades, and a recent paper has been submitted with evidence they’ve been observed burying their dead on purpose – carrying babies for miles to man-made trenches. They obviously can’t do that with their larger dead, but they appear to prefer their dead to be protected from predation if possible, and they stay with the bodies for days, trumpeting for days. That strongly suggests they have some kind of opinions surrounding death, which again, in our own ancestors is inextricable from spirituality.

      I personally think some other animals have religion – I have no real evidence as that’s just my opinion. I think we vastly underestimate animals and overestimate our relative importance .

      Give me a few minutes and I’ll add source links (I’m on mobile)

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• bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you like to play with a good toy now and then, that says something about you.

  Also consider, this toy involved no fantasies of mass murder.

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  • Tiltinyall@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    While I cant explain the slug, I just want to point out that a reason these small animals might be attracted to it migh include exercising in a confined space. Just running kind of works against many creatures hiding instincts. And running in place is practice for running in a chase.

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• Assian_Candor@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I bought an exercise wheel and put it outside for this reason

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