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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨MacNCheezus@lemmy.today⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This feels like one of those right wing memes that could go either way, but let’s break it down like this Uncle Ben and Aunt Jamima are both domestic servants, do you think that’s an appropriate mascot for a company? Do you think black folks want them as some of their oldest icons?

    Land of lakes also has a stereotypically dressed native woman who probably wouldn’t dress like that at all even back in the day.

    I get that most people couldn’t give a shit either way but when you use your brain to think about how messed up presumably white owned companies are for using slaves and genocided people as their logos or mascots is pretty fucked.

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    • AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mia, the Land o Lakes butter maiden, is actually rather interesting, at least the modern version they got rid of. The artist was a member of the Red Lake Chippewa and the design included traditional Ojibwe floral motifs. Yeah, it needed to go, but it wasn’t the worst by a long shot.

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      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I just love the idea of a native american being iconfied for… butter.

        like, wow, that’s so very, very native and authentic - butter.

        I get it, it’s the land-o-lakes, minnesota, and they take butter fucking serious folks, they make it, they eat it, they sculpt it, so yeah, they’re REALLY into butter… but why the stolen iconography? why associate the native americans, who didn’t domesticate cows, with butter of all things?

        like what the actual fuck was the line of thought?

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    • wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Uncle Ben is supposedly based upon a southern maitre d. Aunt Jemima though, undoubtedly problematic.

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      • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        TIL

        From 1946 to 2020, Uncle Ben’s products carried the image of an elderly African-American man dressed in a bow tie, which is said to have been based on a Chicago maître d’hôtel named Frank Brown with the name “Ben” being a possible reference to a shrewd rice farmer from Houston. In 2020, Mars told Ad Age, “We don’t know if a real ‘Ben’ ever existed.” According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower known for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who had supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name “Uncle Ben’s” as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben's_Original

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well, the Sun-Maid girl is clearly working a job that’s mostly done by immigrants from the south these days, so using a white woman instead of a brown one denies them representation. But using a brown woman would also be racist because it would perpetuate harmful stereotypes… hm, what to do?

      Little Debbie is clearly a child. Do you want children to be exploited for marketing purposes?

      At least a Quakers are historically against war and slavery, so I guess he can stay.

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      • DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Quakers are also who gave us the “puritanical work ethic” that plagues our society as we try to adapt to a more convenient era of work.

        Either way you’re just being a pendantic smart ass about this, so you’re definitely just some shithead right wing troll looking for rage bait.

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      • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        As a European (we had slavery, made more wars than you can imagine and have probably the worst history you can’t even imagine) nice try locking people up in “black” vs “white”.

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    • lewdian69@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You are in a shitposting community friend.

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      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m not making a statement about the post, but “it’s just shit posting” is a reeeeaaal good way to turn this place into a nazi bar. Not calling OP a nazi, just saying that this argument right here is chum in the water for them

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  • grrk@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hell yeah, get rid of ALL the people while we’re at it!

    Uncle ben is a brontosaurus Aunt Jemima is now a giraffe Little debbie is little ducky Quaker oats has a giant sentient, “THE Quaker oat” Sunmaid is the literal sun in a french maid outfit And of course land o lakes should be the lochness monster or some similar native american cryptid.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would be okay with this.

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  • hugetechnerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only people that are racist have no idea why the figures on the left are racist and not those on the right.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Only people that have no ability to think for themselves have a need to put others into categories of acceptability based on what the dominant culture around them thinks instead of judging them based on their individual merits.

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      • eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What if someone’s judgement of your individual merits just happens to agree with the dominant culture around them? Or is that not possible? Does the ability to think for ones self necessarily lead to disagreement with whatever is commomly believed? I think that would just be dumbass contrarianism.

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    • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re genuinely saying that those on the right aren’t racist?

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  • ieightpi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll be honest, this comment section is confusing. Every comment I read makes me feel bad about myself and I’m not sure which comment is agreeing with which.

    I still think it’s bad to put slaves on your products but why am I supposed to feel bad about the white people?

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m just gonna say… I don’t really think this was the kind of media representation were looking for. Or needed. Or found helpful in any way.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      nbcnews.com/…/relatives-aunt-jemima-actresses-exp…

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      • felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        From that article:

        “The character of Aunt Jemima is an invitation to white people to indulge in a fantasy of enslaved people — and by extension, all of Black America — as submissive, self-effacing, loyal, pacified and pacifying,” Twitty wrote in a recent NBC Think essay. “It positions Black people as boxed in, prepackaged and ready to satisfy; it’s the problem of all consumption, only laced with racial overtones.”

        This piece is interesting but even the relatives understand the imagery to be racist.

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  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuckin chud thinking removing racist depictions is somehow bad.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you flip around the capitalized letters in your username, it spells VikingHet, which is clearly a white supremacist and anti-LGBT dog whistle.

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      • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Reading to much into shit.

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  • mhague@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I notice that a lot of people make sense of life using a series of rules. “if X then that means Y!” I think they’re bad at sussing out what’s right by reading the room, and they also can’t make sense of a complex world. They just default to thinking of the world as if we’re in a video game. It’s like they lack empathy or the ability to read humans or something.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Whom exactly is this directed at?

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      • irreticent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Probably written by ChatGPT.

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