Comment on Well, I guess that settles it

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  George Washington used violence to advance his political agenda of a sovereign USA. Was George a terrorist?

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  • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s not terrorism if you win.

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    • babybus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      History is written by the victors.

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      • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Then we’ll just have to win.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes, why would you think he wasn’t?

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    • DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Because we often only phrase things as terrorism when it’s “bad”

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      • yannic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Exactly. The baddies are called ‘terrorists’. The term the media uses to describe good terrorists is ‘rebels’.

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  • imposedsensation@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes, he was a good terrorist. He wasn’t captured by the enemy.

    Luigi was pretty dumb wearing that creepy outfit at a McD. He was captured. Regardless of how you feel about him, being captured was a major failure.

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, Luigi fucked up so bad that he wasn’t even the shooter and he still got caught /irony

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  • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If he used violence against noncombatants.

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terror attacks though.

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Oh, well then Muad’dib isn’t a terrorist because he only killed a mass murderer. Military brass are considered combatants, and Brian ordered thousands to their deaths.

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      • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The US generally holds that only foreign individuals and organisations can be terrorists. So if Luigi can be charged with terrorism, so can the KKK.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    4th of July is a national celebration of terrorism.

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• Fleur_@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  No?

  It’s very obviously an action made with intent to cause terror. It doesn’t have to be political or violent. There is often an aspect of violence and political motivation but it isn’t a requirement

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

    It’s pretty much always meant violence for an ideology or cause. And the political motivation is very much what makes the difference.

    Words do have definitions.

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    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well then define non-combatants. The person he should was at fault for hundreds of not thousands of deaths. Saying he didn’t personally do them would be like saying a general is not responsible for their troops actions.

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      • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well then define non-combatants.

        “a person who is not engaged in fighting during a war, especially a civilian, chaplain, or medical practitioner.”

        Sure he was responsible for deaths due to denying health coverage. But he’s still a civilian.

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    • Fleur_@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “Different definitions of terrorism emphasize its randomness, its aim to instill fear, and its broader impact beyond its immediate victims.”

      From the article you cited

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    • allo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      using definitions is cheating

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    • kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Its wildly overused though isnt it. Anyone can say almost anything and claim its political.

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      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s usually applied to a non state actor, not a government.

        The sinking of the Rainbow Warrior, for example, isn’t generally considered a terrorist attack.

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  • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    He likely intended to cause terror for the victims minority.

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