Comment on Steam Now Warns Consumers That They're Buying a License, Not a Game During a Purchase

• TommySoda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But also with GOG you can download the installers and play offline. It’s literally one of their big selling points. It’s less convenient than things like steam, but you can do whatever the hell you want when you buy it.

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  • Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Depends on the game, they still sell DRM games which are limited in being able to be downloaded freely

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      DRM is added by the developers/publishers not by GOG, tho.

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      • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Same thing applies to Steam. You don’t need to use the Steam DRM if you don’t want to, it gets added by the developers/publishers

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  • null@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    you can do whatever the hell you want when you buy it

    Mmm, not quite.

    And I point that out because Lemmy is a very FOSS-friendly place where that sentiment is actually true.

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• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  pcgamer.com/…/steams-new-disclaimer-reminds-every…

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• JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  That’s not GOG works.

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    On a legal level, it is how GOG works. They still only sell licenses. You just have the loophole that their installers and the games installed by them will work regardless.

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    • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      While that may be partly true, depending on the county you’re located, they’re not able to revoke the license though.

      So in this specific case you having the files makes a world of difference.

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      • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But then the same is also true for Steam

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• tehmics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But GoG provides it DRM free, so you can always play what you’ve downloaded til the end of time. It’s as good as piracy in that way.

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  • lastweakness@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    At that point, why not buy the game on any platform of your choosing and just pirate it when it stops being accessible on the platform you bought it on? I understand wanting to support GOG, I “own” a lot of games on GOG as well. But it’s not really “owning” even on GOG if at some point, I could lose the ability to download the game.

    Any game that isn’t available as a pirated game isn’t going to be on GOG anyway… The problem here is that GOG needs to be better than piracy in any tangible way and right now, that’s not the case. It would be the case for me if GOG Galaxy was available on Linux but it’s not, as one example.

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    • tehmics@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s data.

      It’s never “owning” in the traditional sense, because data is not physical.

      When people say they own something, there’s an implication that it’s theirs until they decide to part with it. That is true for games bought without DRM. DRM free the closest you’ll ever get to ‘owning’ data, you possess that on your own local device and it can’t be taken away.

      You can lose the ability to download the game, sure. But that is an additional service, not the game itself. You have that data until you delete it. Same with GoG Galaxy. that’s an extra service.

      You’re arguing 2 or 3 different things. Ownership as a legal right, ownership as in possession, and a weird third thing where you seem to be confusing meta services with the ownership of the thing itself.

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      • lastweakness@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It just needs to be "owning* in the way physical media without DRM works. That is data too after all. The ability to sell your copy of the data or have your friend borrow.

        Yes, DRM-free is the closest thing, never argued otherwise. I’m also not arguing the services offered by GOG are part of “ownership”. The lack of an ability to download a game at any point is just a part of the fact that GOG too is simply licensing in the end. But yes, GOG is still the closest thing to “owning” games. Which is why it sucks that so many titles on GOG have DRM despite the claims btw…

        I’m really only arguing one thing: piracy is better than GOG right now in every single way. You don’t have to worry about hidden DRM. You don’t have to worry about account creation bullshit. You don’t have to worry about anything else. You just download, hit play and it works every single time. If I send the copy to a friend, it will still work.

        Piracy has always been closer to “owning” than GOG, so GOG should at least have some other tangible benefits over piracy. But right now, they don’t.

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