afaik, it’s not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it’s often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
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LowleeKun@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
cccc0@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens you think because it has “estrogens” in the name it turns you into a girl.
phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT. by who? facebook?
r00ty@kbin.life 4 weeks ago
by who? facebook?
You know what I've been seeing on Facebook lately (qualifier, I use it for my local village group and those last few friends that refuse to use anything else)? People posting the fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine used a modified chimpanzee adenovirus and implying this is the cause of the mpox business.
I would 100% bet they got it from Facebook!
femboycuddles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
I think I remember a 4chan post with the supplemental thing, might originate from there instead idk
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Exactly. It has a similar name in one of the ingredients. But: this ingredient is not estrogen and it basically has zero impact on the hormones in your body. And all experts know that. That’s why there’s no scientific papers supporting this whole soy / estrogen theory.
shneancy@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
but you see, the whole of Asia is made up of just women so that proves it! /s
snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
I dunno, just mentioning what I’ve heard before, hence the ‘afaik’
lowered_lifted@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
False, the phytoestrogens in beer are far more bioavailable, but also the animal estrogen in beef.
Delphia@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Ooh neat, thanks, I’ll read up on that
cheddar@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
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Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
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Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
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Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
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Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
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In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
- Reducing menopausal symptoms like hot flashes in some women[1][3]
- Improving cardiovascular health markers[2][4]
- Reducing risk of certain cancers like breast and prostate cancer[3][6]
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
- Blocking estrogen receptors and reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]
- Interfering with thyroid function in some cases[2]
- Potential effects on breast and prostate cancer risk, though the evidence is inconclusive[3][6]
Citations: [1] herkare.com/…/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phy… [2] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] jamanetwork.com/journals/…/648139 [4] www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-diff… [6] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0149763421005558 [8] www.sciencedirect.com/topics/…/phytoestrogen
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Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Meanwhile cow milk is full of estrogen because it helps the cows to lactate.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s really strange that all of the replies to your comment are essentially agreeing with you but you got downvoted into the dirt for stating facts.
snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
might’ve taken it as defending the soyboy designation lol
Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Nice tits
LowleeKun@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Thanks bro, all the workout is paying of [ o ][ o ]
DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
How to grow boobs (in Minecraft)
Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Cow milk is full of estrogen and growth hormone.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
YO GIRLS, FEMMES, AND THOSE TRYING TO AVOID TWINK DEATH, YOU READING THIS??
YOU DON’T NEED THAT EXPENSIVE HRT, YOU JUST NEED TO DRINK MORE COWS MILK!
BECAUSE THE INTERNET CLOWNS SAID SO. JUST LIKE HOW THEY FOUND THE BOSTON BOMBER!
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
The point isn’t that drinking cow milk will make you turn femme, it’s that if cow milk doesn’t soy milk sure as fuck ain’t going to.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
There’s pretty strong evidence that ancient Greece used horse urine as HRT
MHanak@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As far as i know hormone concentration in milk is strictly regulated