It’s a shame that in the age of the internet, we still sometimes have to buy physical in order to actually own things. I like buying CD’s for music that I really really like, but most of the time I just get a digital copy from Bandcamp. It’s cheaper and doesn’t clutter up my house. It’s a shame that there’s nothing like bandcamp for movies (at least as far as I know).
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doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Buy Blu-rays. Highly underrated.
- The sound and video quality is the best you’ll get anywhere.
- It selectively supports the movies and artists you like.
- You get amazing extras and documentaries about the movie.
- Nobody can take the movie away from you.
- You can rip the disc with MakeMKV to view digitally with Jellyfin.
renzev@lemmy.world 1 year ago
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I completely understand the sentiment here, but I have to respectfully disagree with part of your argument.
The internet itself is this fundamentally ephemeral, thing. Our relationship to it, as a medium, has persisted for decades at this point and may continue to do so for a long time. At the same time, it lives and dies by the whims of corporations and millions of other users, and so it’s trajectory is largely beyond the control of any one individual. It’s like this by design: properties like distributed control, flexible routing, easy duplication/destruction of data, give it resilience but also make it temporary. This also makes it a volatile place to keep things permanently, which is a real problem for a lot of different mediums.
With that in mind, there exists a lot of media today that has no non-digital equivalent. So, having a local data cache you control - DVD, BluRay, forvever moving data between online services, even a personal NAS - is the only hedge you can get for the net’s volatility. And even then, that medium has a service life.
So I don’t think it’s a shame, per se, that things are like this now. Rather, it always has been. It’s never been easier to consume (and pirate) media online, but the underlying rules have not changed.
renzev@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s true what you say about volatility. It’s not just the internet, it’s everything digital, even offline storage.
A few months ago I was about to sell/give away a bunch of old childrens books that I had, my reasoning being that I will never want to read them again, and even if did want to for whatever reason, I could always find ebook versions of them.
Ultimately I decided to keep the books – what if, sometime in the future, I wanted to share these books with my (potential) children? Would all of these books have been preserved in digital form? Would I rather be giving my children a physical copy that I owned and read personally, or emailing a PDF? Physical media holds real value.
Persen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Some people probably sell torrents of their movies, but I haven’t seen it yet
renzev@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve seen some niche bands release (free) official torrents of their music on a certain piracy website. It’s kind of surreal. If you can’t beat em, join em I guess
generichate1546@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Don’t start buying records off band camp, it addictive
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I have too many Blu-rays with unskippable ads at the start. I really don’t need to be shown ads for movies that came out 5 years ago before being allowed to watch the movie I purchased and own.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can always skip the movie trailers if you have the right player. I have 300+ blue-rays and not a single one has unskippable trailers. Besides, you can just rip the disc and remove the ads.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Besides, you can just rip the disc and remove the ads.
So once again, as per the meme, it’s easier to just pirate in the first place
doodledup@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Certainly not. I just insert the disc and it starts playing. How can it be easier than that? It’s also really hard to get the best possible quality of every movie and all the extras with piracy. It’s not very convenient.
Besides, you don’t support the artists in any way doing that. I want more movies to be produced that I like. The only way to incentivize that is with my wallet. Blue-rays is probably the best way to do it.
riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Found a movie I couldn’t buy digitally, but could buy the bluray.
It’s a forgotten art form. There were hidden things in the menus and fun little menu transitions.
And it was trivially easy to make my own digital copy. I fully support this post.
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thing is, nobody owns a Blu-ray player.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Why not? They’re cheap as fuck now, and if you have a xbox one or ps4 or newer (one that still has a disc drive), you already have a fucking blu ray player.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 year ago
My phone has a VPN client, a torrent client, and a video player, but it doesn’t have a Blu-ray player.
Do you expect me to watch movies on some sort of non-poetable screen? What is this, 1997?
Persen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I’m not mistaken, vlc supports MKV, you just have to back it up.
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
miak@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I rip my Blu-rays and upload to my Plex server. Once that’s done, I can stream the movies to my phone via the Plex app. It’s super easy.
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My last console was a N64. I still play those old games on occasion. My PC gaming experience isn’t equalled by consoles. I’d actually buy a Blu-ray player for my PC, it’s connected to my TV and sound system - but I hate most of the movies made today. Maybe I still will, just to preserve some old classics in my library.
moody@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Playstation 3, 4, and 5 sold a combined 280 million units, that’s a decent number of Blu-Ray players.
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I haven’t bought a console since the N64, PC gaming has just been better ever since. I still have my N64 and NES though.
moody@lemmings.world 1 year ago
That’s not the point. You specifically may not own a Blu-Ray player, but there have been 280 million non-dedicated devices from a single company sold that play them. That’s not counting other consoles like Xbox One and Series X, computers with BD drives, and dedicated BD players.
Seems like a far cry from your statement that nobody owns one. Even as hyperbole, it’s just false.
portuga@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think basically that’s it. I don’t even have a CD player to rip my own CDs
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Do you have a tower PC? I have a stack of DVD read/write drives +/- that I need to get rid of pretty soon, I won’t have a place to store them after the next couple of months. I’d offer to ship you one, but I have to put an asterisk in there. The last time I offered to ship a guy some RAM it turned out there was a lot of international barriers and it was going to cost me about 10 times with the RAM was worth to ship it to him, with no guarantee he’d actually receive it. So… ?
portuga@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a tower pc or two, but I gotta go pick it from the attic, hose it down, and then see if the cd tray still works
But I appreciate your reply, even if I took my time to reply Farewell, friend 🙏
suction@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Turns out some things the damn Gen Z guys were using are actually bussin fr no cap
ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How high res is bluray?
AliasVortex@lemmy.world 1 year ago
1080 for most disks, with 4K when marked ultra hd. It’s worth noting disk video is usually uncompressed, so it may very well look better than a stream of the same resolution.
moody@lemmings.world 1 year ago
It’s worth noting disk video is usually uncompressed
Just being a bit pedantic here, but they’re much less compressed since their source is generally the original recordings. Anything you get from streaming services is much more heavily compressed, and anything you’re likely to pirate is compressed from DVD or Blu-ray sources (or worse, they can be compressed from already compressed streaming sources.)
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Different compression, not “no-compression”.
A dual-player Blu-ray disc can hold about 4 minutes of uncompressed 24fps 4k video.
jaschen@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Usually 4k.
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The 4K UHD Blu-Rays are in 4K HDR. But the average Blu-Ray is 1080p.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Up to 100MBit/s video. Audio bitrate is usually lossless and has a higher bitrate than the entire video + audio stream of most streaming services.
peastea@feddit.org 1 year ago
According to this site the average lifespan of the cheapest type of bluray is 5-10 years. So a personal backup with makemkv (and maybe handbrake) might not be a bad idea.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
That’s for recordable discs.
peastea@feddit.org 1 year ago
True. I missed that. With 10-20 years the general point still stands though. There should be quite a few movie blurays out there that are close to the end of their life.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
It’s based on the same stuff as CDs and DVDs.
I don’t think they last forever, but if the CDs and DVDs aren’t failing in mass numbers yet, I don’t see why the Blu-ray discs would be.
Estimate for CD lifespans was in the 100 year range, but the only way to really put that to the test is to try them in 100 years.
How they’re stored probably plays a major role as well. Most of mine are just stored in my living room in the boxes they came in. If you leave them lying in direct sunlight, or attics and garages at unusual temperatures and humidity levels, they’ll likely die a lot sooner.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re talking about writable discs. Normal blue-ray discs have a much longer life expectancy than most other mediums including HDDs. Standards and manufacturing have improved too. Modern discs have a life expectancy for at least 50-150 years. I have a collection of over 300 discs. 100 of them are 10 years or older. None of them have failed on me. And I don’t have a temperature controlled room or anything like that.