Comment on Daily Discussion Thread: 🌃🏙️ Friday, August 9, 2024

Force_majeure123@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not a dumpling. Dumplings are not stuffed pastries or stuffed pasta, dumplings are small balls of dough cooked in stew to be eaten with stew.

  We don’t called pierogi dumplings either do we?

  It’s just the co-opting of a word .

  They are mini pies that are boiled.

  Tortellini is fancy pasta.

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  • just_kitten@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Words change meaning over time, this is one of them

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    • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s a very American argument. Americans, who use Simplified English, used dictionaries as a political tool in the war of independence and still do

      They developed a descriptive dictionary so they can say their usage is just as valid 🙄

      but the rest of the world, who use Traditional English, use prescriptive dictionaries so we can have agreed upon meanings and usage.

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      • StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I can promise you that words changing meaning over time is not an “American Argument”. Nothing to say what you mean by “American” (us, Canada, Argentina?) .

        Language has changed all the time, via slang from the poorest, or the slang of the royals and powerful people throughout history.

        We don’t say *dyeu anymore, to refer to the sun-god of proto-indo-european times; we say “Zeus”, “deity”, “deva” or “Jupiter” (all come from *dyeu).

        So I don’t think the Americans had any say in that. Language and the evolution of language has happened endless times throughout history.

        Example from Language Jones

        youtu.be/BFgg-Gy0E2g?si=g4rNnyX7eu1DJx60

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      • Force_majeure123@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dumpling is a Chinese word though so I don’t understand your argument

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    • AJSadauskas@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So what about Chinese dumplings then?

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      • Force_majeure123@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nothing changed about them, they are still in the dumpling family

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    • StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s the joy of language and language evolution imo. Anyone ever heard of the great vowel shift haha

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      • Thornburywitch@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes. The stuff of dinner table conversation in the family. My mum did her masters degree on Old English and Old Norse. Dad spoke fluent cockney, english and lowland scots depending on context. Tell me about it.

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      • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Keep talking. I’m learning.

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  • MeanElevator@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are hot dogs sandwiches then?

    I always thought of dumplings as either dough balls, or dough balls stuffed with other things.

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    • RustyRaven@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If served on a split long roll it is a hot dog. If you cut the roll horizontally it becomes a sub. Serve three cocktail frankfurts crosswise on a round roll and it is a burger. Sliced and served between two slices of bread it the only way it becomes a sandwich. Unless you then toast it and transform it into a toastie, or toast it in a special press and turn it into a jaffle. All completely different meals.

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    • stepchook@mastodon.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      @MeanElevator @Seagoon_
      Bread crumbs wrapped in bread crumbs.
      A hot dog is basically meat flavoured bread.

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  • Force_majeure123@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pierogis are also in the dumpling family.

    Tortellini is dumpling

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• StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s a wild hot take, damn. Don’t tell the Italians lol

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  • mysticgreg@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My wife is Italian and tortellini is her favourite. She’s sharpening her pitchfork as we speak 🤣

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Taunt with tomato sauce, you only live once

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      • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Tomato sauce? Do you mean marina sauce? 😉

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      • mysticgreg@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I, too, like to live dangerously!

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    • StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My partner too, tbh lol!

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      • mysticgreg@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Mention putting cream in carbonara to them, stand back, and watch them (rightly) explode :D

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• Duenan@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Maybe technically but they’re still delicious!

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