And American weapons. Let’s not pretend that the USSR fought alone.
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Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
Yeah, and he went away not because they voted him out but thanks to Soviet weapons.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 years ago
uis@lemm.ee 2 years ago
And Brittish weapons
el_bhm@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Land Lease is just a western conspiracy!
Raab@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It’s Lend Lease…
ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
They did do 80% of the fighting, though. So lets not give America too much credit.
match@pawb.social 2 years ago
They did 80% of the dying, the current Ukraine war should be evidence that Russia’s force multiplier is fractional
Nyoka@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Probably more accurate to say American trucks and raw materials, but yes.
volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Nice whataboutism
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
They did some rapes too !
volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 years ago
As did everyone. There’s no study showing that the amount of rapes per soldier by the soviets is higher than that of other nations.
el_bhm@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Oh fuuuuck of. There are books based on actual KGB archives that were opened up. Rape of Berlin is well described. There are books about the actual bordelos attached to armies. Western armies. Soviet officers had army wives. Apparently they still do.
There are countless accounts of people prefering Nazi soldiers to soviets. It is THE reason central and easter Europe hates russia.
No data on rapes my ass. But pleeenty of data that soviets single handedly saved the world from Nazis.
Get a grasp.
volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Wow, so the released KGB archives show the tapes. I wonder what would happen if the Americans or the English did that too!
Hatred of Russians by eastern Europeans is due to 30+ years of anti-communist propaganda. The fact that poles hate the USSR which liberated more than the very Nazis who genocided millions of them, shows this. And it wasn’t the case 40 years ago.
Polls in France after WW2 showed 70%+ of people saying it was the USSR who saved them from Nazism. Nowadays, it’s 70% Americans. That’s what Hollywood and propaganda do.
ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
We do know however that the Soviets had the most investigations of and prosecutions of rapists, so it’s a bit of a “Swedish rape crisis” problem where they look worse on paper than other countries simply because their record keeping of the crime in question is better.
el_bhm@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Oh, boy. Good that soviets took such good care of recording rapes. Unlike bad western nazies. White washing soviet rapes with statistics.
There is also one more reason. soviets had no bordelos for the regular army. Only officers had army wives. It is a known fact. But probably western propaganda.
el_bhm@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I will let you know that you constantly excuse and support ultracapitalist nazi regimes. That makes you a nazi.
volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Tell me one I’m defending
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
I also only rape within the average of my demographic
volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 years ago
What’s your point? Every rape is to be condemned and prosecuted. What isn’t fair is making up claims about the amount of rapes by a certain demographic and not backing that up with extensive evidence. That exactly what racist people do against immigrants, and that’s what Nazis did against soviets.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 years ago
And only stole most of east Germany’s infrastructure.
ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
East Germany paid war reparations to the Soviets while rebuilding itself into an industrial powerhouse - the people who “stole most of East Germany’s infrastructure” were the West German capitalists after reunification, when the whole region was forcibly de-industrialized and left a shadow of its former self that still hasn’t fully recovered over thirty years later.
suction@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Imagine thinking the Russian cowards were the main factor in Hitler’s loss 😂😂😂
WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Who allied up with the Nazis to invade Poland?
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
Soviets were the only ones who truly supported the Spanish democracy against the fascist. Every other country, including Poland, turned their back to us while the Luffwaffle was bombing our citizens.
PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Curious that their backstabbing the Spanish republicans was instrumental in losing the Spanish Civil War for the republican side. Strange kind of support.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
What kind of propaganda are you reading in which sending weapons, planes and officers (while all the other countries did NOTHING) is backstabbing.
pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 2 years ago
For Whom The Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemmingway is set during this period. Just a side note.
Heartwotalk@lemmynsfw.com 2 years ago
Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell would also be a good read for someone looking favorably on the Soviets during the Spanish Civil War.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 years ago
IBM and Standard Oil