If God only accepts certain people, then why did He die for everybody?
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dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoSatan welcomes all people, from all walks of life, with open arms. God is a bigot who only accepts certain people, if they’re “good enough”. It’s also my understanding that God killed over 2-million people, while satan only killed 10.
Tell me how God loves me unconditionally again?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Christ alive this is a loaded ask.
The New Testament was a new promise that was to change god from his old vengeful ways to his new ways.
Now, why did “he” die for everybody? He didn’t. Jesus was crucified, theoretically (as there is no actual proof of the event, just people talking about it later and that being deemed “good enough”), for treason.
The story is “this time god sacrificed his child for you” as a “ok we’re even now let’s stop and now I’m a good guy” PR campaign.
None of it is real and the points are made up.
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The belief in a hell or in a Limbo kind of prove that paradise is not for everyone. Depends which dogmas you grew up with, at this point.
About God being sacrificed to himself, it was mainly a way to stop an old tradition of sacrificing goats every year in order to atone for sins. Now people can just say that the Christ already died for that, so they don’t have to act like barbarians and kill poor animals.Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
The offer is for everyone, people choose whether or not to take Him up on it
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
“I sell luxury housing for everyone, it’s not my fault if some people are poor!”
My brother in christ, YOU made poor people.Pandantic@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Again, depends on the dogma. There are faiths which believe that people who are ignorant of the Gospel, of Jesus, do not get into Heaven.
psud@aussie.zone 1 week ago
Catholic dogma (which pre-dates whatever you follow) says unbaptised babies aren’t qualified for heaven, and believers have surreptitiously baptised babies and children of non-Christian background
What good deity punishes people for not reaching an age where they might be baptised? Especially when the dead baby is dead thanks to His ineffable plan
What good deity punishes people born before their invention for not knowing about them?
What good deity punishes people for being born in a country where that deity is unpopular
But I’m sure your version is softened so good people all get heaven.
Judaism says you have to be of one of the Jewish tribes. And that pre-dates all Christianity.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
And also God apparently has so much power he could fix everything in this world with little effort. But no, he specifically creates it. God created all there is, including all the bad stuff. Murders? Rapists? Slave owners? …? Yep. But, “Do not question God’s intentions. He works in mysterious ways.”
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And botflies. Don’t forget botflies.
samus12345@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.
Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.
All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.
Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid
Who made the spiky urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!
All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.
Amen!
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He also kills defenseless babies before they can be baptized. And if life begins at conception, why is God pubishing babies by killing them in the womb (aka stillborn)? Why do they deserve to be stuck in purgatory when they are innocent?