and someone else parks it
And you don’t need to worry about driving
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AA5B@lemmy.world 5 months ago
With trains, you don’t arrive sweaty, you can’t get run down by cars, and someone else parks it
uis@lemmy.world 5 months ago
riodoro1@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Only if you live at one train station and work at another.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
You can also do this thing called walking. I didn’t know that in the United States that is considered suspicious behavior.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Im from europe, train stations here are a little more than walking distance apart.
pearable@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The public transit isn’t that great where I live by European standards. I use a Brompton folding bike to make up the difference. It’s great for trains
Facebones@reddthat.com 5 months ago
This is my favorite argument from carfolk, because they’ll treat walking one block from a bus station as some cardinal sin but will happily walk four blocks from a parking spot.
AA5B@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Cities with transit typically have several different ways of getting around.
For my last job, done choices were:
- express bus plus walk a couple blocks
- train and walk a mile
- train to subway and walk a couple blocks
- drive to subway and walk a couple blocks
I’m not even counting scooter and bike share but I chose each of these options depending g on what was best at the time. But my most common choice was the train and walk a mile. It was a bit of a walk but I didn’t have to deal with people or waiting and it was close enough.
someguy3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s common to bus to the train station, and yes train stations downtown are where many people work.
nifty@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I love trains but they give me so much anxiety. I have stories of facing harassment on public transport. But it’s not just me though, here’s some idea of public transport can suck for women or other people in case my anecdotes are just that: metro-magazine.com/…/sexual-crime-and-harassment-…
California had to make a law for it, so it’s not just a one place issue: 19thnews.org/…/california-introduces-bill-harassm…
If public transport can come without being subjected to people and whatever miserable state of mind they’re in, I’d like that. I can at least escape a dumbass in my car, but in a train they’re either right in front of me or nearby for a long time. How do we fix this?
SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Public transport is clean and safe when everyone uses it. In the US, the social expectation is that public transportation is for the poor. Like white flight out of US urban centers in the 60s, it’s a class thing, and owning a car becomes a self perpetuating class signifier. In most of the rest of the developed world, like London, Paris, Tokyo, etc. public transportation is for everyone, rich and poor. It’s just a question of investing in and valuing public transportation over cars.
nifty@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hmm idk about cars as a class signifier, they’re like phones now, everyone has one. I don’t disagree with you about public transport being for everyone, but I am not sure that examples of harassment and human misery will necessarily decrease because richer people are forced to commute. See for example, the price-based communal vans in Asian countries. I think it makes sense to actively work on making public transit better, but that requires an open eyed approach to acknowledging existing problems. Nothing can have perfect solutions, but an attempt needs to be made to at least acknowledge the issue and provide a preliminary solution.
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
The reason you’re not afraid of being in public in any other circumstances are in public transportation is exactly, precisely because public transportation in US is shitty and stigmatized and the expectation is that only the poor are using it. This is the source of the problem, and the way to fix i is to improve it so everyone is using it, and the crowd in public transport will be the same as everywhere
calypsopub@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wouldn’t it be great if we could each have our own private pods?
nifty@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes actually, not sure if sarcastic.
calypsopub@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not sarcastic. It would be such a relief.
adriaan@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I ride a bike to work every day. I’m never sweaty. The infrastructure to cycle exists so I won’t get run over by cars.
Mrderisant@midwest.social 5 months ago
Where I live I wouldn’t want to bike. Too many freaking hills
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Where I live, I wouldn’t want to bike for at least 5 months of the year. Between mid April and late October, we are stupid hot and humid.
pearable@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The comfortable temp for biking is significantly higher than it is for walking, especially with the right gear. 40°C is definitely beyond reasonable tho. Planting trees and decreasing the amount of asphalt would go a long way to make it a better proposition more of the year. A societal expectation that you don’t go or do anything when weather gets that hot could bridge the difference. Unfortunately that kind of philosophy is antithetical to capitalism’s demands for productivity.
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I live in a somewhat hilly city. That is why I have an electric bike. I’m never sweaty when I arrive at work
Chriswild@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Even if the city is flat as fuck you’ll still arrive sweaty if the climate is hot. Take Phoenix for example, you will sweat even if you are in the shade and doing no physical exercise because it’s commonly 46 degrees.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
I have an electric bike for the hills.
Where I used to work it was downhill all the way there and uphill all the way back stupid way round of having it don’t want to get to work early.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Where I live biking to work wouldn’t be popular because it’s too cold and Americans hate exercise
pearable@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Biking in the cold and wet honestly isn’t that bad. Biking is my primary way of getting around all year in the PNW. When it gets real cold I put on normal snow gear. It definitely makes going outside more of a production tho.
A lot of it has more to do with what people are used to and feel is reasonable than with the actual conditions. If people saw more folks riding and actually knew people who rode I think people would be more open to try it.
Unmanaged ice/snow, unhealthy wet bulb temperatures, and getting run over due to car first infrastructure are the most significant barriers to more people using bikes as transportation IMO. If a society chooses to, all those things can be mitigated.
My favorite part of riding is that I get moderate physical activity for free. I would not spend near as much time being active otherwise.
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Hills only the problem if you’re not biking regularly. I’m way out of shape, but after a year on living in a country with good infrastructure hills aren’t a problem for me anymore, really. But first couple of months it was a bit brutal, for sure.
DrRatso@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Teach me the non-sweaty ways. I love my bike, but theres no way I can arrive not sweaty. Before you say go slow, I’m not letting no bus take my god-damn glory.
someguy3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
E bike.
DrRatso@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Sure, but I assume the conversation was about mechanical bikes. Personally, for a PEV I would choose something lighter and cheaper and forego the pedalling altogether, but my commute is only about 7.5 km one way.
anivia@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
In Germany those are only allowed to assist you up to 25kph, which means they only help you going up hills, everywhere else will be the same amount of effort
pearable@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
An Ebike is extremely helpful, especially if there are hills. Wear a breathable long sleeve SPF shirt. I like hemp and some of the stuff Colombia makes. If your route is safe enough don’t wear a helmet. Shorts and sandals are also helpful. I’ve had some success with lightweight merino clothes as well but they tend to get holey in a few years of frequent use
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
You just don’t treat it as a competition, but as a relaxed stroll. Don’t care about no buses, just vibe with the flow.
DrRatso@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Thats the thing though, for me the flow to vibe with is some banger tunes and pedalling as hard as I can. 😅
chakan2@lemmy.world 5 months ago
He’s sweaty…he’s the BO guy in his office.
adriaan@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
No dude, two thirds of my office commutes in by bike. I’m just in decent shape and cycling at a reasonable pace doesn’t make me break a sweat. For most people in decent shape it doesn’t make you sweat more than walking.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 months ago
When I biked to work there was a YMCA right next to my office, so I would ride in early, get in a workout and a shower at the Y and then walk two minutes to work. The only downsides were 1) getting chased by pitbulls and 2) having to look at fat old judges lounging around the locker room stark naked before starting their day of sending probably-innocent black men to prison for decades (both hazards of life in Louisiana).
DrRatso@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Obviously I can shower at work but then I need to get in 15 minutes early and then I have to blow-dry my hair and it is just a whole thing now.
You might not see the above as a problem but for me, the problem is I can for the life of me not get up earlier than I have to, I am just not a morning person. If I can manage to brew a pot of coffee and have a quick breakfast before I have to get out the door, that is a successfull morning.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Must be nice 🥲
i_am_tired_boss@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It is.