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JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
I recently found out that I, Robot and Foundation are essentially within the same series. It’s just that Foundation happens hundreds of years after the great robot wars.
No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Is Foundation any good?
I didn’t like I Robot because Will Smith annoys me.
LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The books are awesome. The concept of being able to (more or less) predict the future and trying to shepherd humanity through various crises that will alter the timeline and trying to rescue us from our own nature is a fun one.
The nature of the story doesn’t lend itself well to adaptation in a visual medium but the show is decent (it does deviate some from the books and mess around with the timeline some to make it work better for TV). Can’t speak to the movie.
The Foundation Trilogy also was published 1951-1953 and you see a lot of ideas that became mainstay scifi tropes in their early form. For example, it’s easy to see the influence Foundation had on Dune.
affenlehrer@feddit.org 3 days ago
I only read the first one and didn’t really like it. It’s just full of “plot twists” where some smoking guy randomly appears and tell the protagonists “haha, I predicted you’d do this” and then “hah, I predicted you’d know that I’d predict your next move and you’d do something different!”.
I don’t know, I like the setup and the beginning but after a while it seemed silly to me.
LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I think it’s a touch more nuanced than that but yes the plot does follow Hari Seldon’s creation of a school of thought and study called psychohistory.
The main plot is that humanity would be plunged into 30,000 years of dark ages full of bad shit but Seldon believes following his plan it can be shortened to only 1,000 years of real bad times for the schmucks born then.
Like you said, one of the themes the books talk about is the paradox of knowing the future and if you can or can’t change it. If you know the future and do something to change it to be different from what you predicted - does that mean you did or did not actually know the future?
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
The movie has almost nothing in common with the original story.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
But is the tv series Foundation worth watching?
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes and the best part isn’t even in the books — the Genetic Dynasty.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
I really have enjoyed it so far.
zikzak025@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I believe so. It’s some solid sci-fi. I’ve heard grievances from a lot of fans of the book because it is not a very faithful adaptation in the slightest, but I think they managed to put together something that works better for TV and manages to tell an interesting story in its own right.
Some parts of the narrative fall a bit more flat than others, but the highs of the series have (so far) done more than enough to make up for the lows for me.
And I’m just thankful to have more space sci-fi that isn’t trying to be another Star Wars.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Dunno. Haven’t seen it (nor gotten to the books yet). But I thoroughly enjoyed what I’ve read of Asimov so far.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Crazy how crazy Will Smith is. Even before the whole slapping thing.
story@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
i loved Foundation! Gaia is for the lefties, the early books are for everyone else. There’s something for everyone.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Not essentially, Asimov combined his three series (robots, foundation, and empire) and a few other short stories and novels into one universe 30 years after with with foundation follow-ups. There’s a few continuity errors since it wasn’t planets like that from the start.
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One of my favorite authors and series.