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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

NHS costs about 4600$ per recipient

Spanish healthcare system 5346$ per recipient

Canada’s is about 5000$

The US PUBLIC healthcare spending (Medicare, medicaid, VA, ACA subsidies) is about 5600$ PER CITIZEN (not recipient).

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Americans already pay enough in taxes for 100% free comprehensive healthcare for everyone, but get fuck all. The average household pays between 15000$ to 20000$ for healthcare.

The American system is not inefficient, it is an extortion scam that steals trillions from working Americans and kills about 40,000 Americans per yeat.

Wanting the US healthcare system is like wanting a 9/11 every month.

We could give every American 100% free healthcare, without rising taxes. Imagine what would happen to the economy when every household has an extra 15k$ of disposable income?

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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
But in Canada you may have to wait to see a doctor! Checkmate socialists!

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- JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Which means you were triaged and are not among most critical cases. Wanna know what happens in an American ER when you aren’t visibly in critical condition?
  
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  - MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I unironically recommend watching the gripping horror/drama that is “The Pitt” to understand how ERs work in the United States.
    
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    LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    To be fair, it’s VERY exaggerated. Yes, many of the situations are realistic, and a lot of the actual medicine is very accurate, but the overall situation is pretty far outside the normal for any real hospital.
    
    It’s like an entire year’s worth of worst case scenarios jammed into a “one shift” season.
    
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  - cdf12345@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Ohh you rolled snake eyes, sorry lose 12 hours and try again
    
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  - fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I bet it’s something Canadian!
    
    - The cardiologist I fired
    
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chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The thing people don’t realize is that we already have universal healthcare, but in a stupid, cruel way. A hospital will treat anybody, but they’ll go into debt for the amount they “should” have paid, and everyone who does pay already pays for them.

Also - If anyone reading this is uninsured and needs medical attention - get treatment and ignore the bills. Medical debt might as well be imaginary. It’s essentially ignored by credit bureaus. Hospitals sell it off to debt collectors who will try to get you to pay, but just end up selling it off again and again until it goes away 99.99% of the time.

Don’t ignore something potentially serious over financial concerns.

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- NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  This is not really true though. If you need cancer treatment and don’t have insurance (or if your insurance won’t cover treatment) you can’t just walk into a hospital and demand to see a specialist, much less get surgery or chemotherapy.
  
  Yes they will take you in for your last moments and put you in a corner to die, but that is not what people normally think of as healthcare.
  
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Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The White House recently posted that it would cost $35,500 per household per year to enact Medicare for All.

Obviously, that’s total horseshit, but that’s the attitude we are fighting.

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buzz86us@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Buh then they won’t want to work. 🤣

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- IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  true, Germany is famous for no one working
  
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bedwyr@piefed.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
We know it, thanks for the figures though, I will write this down. I don’t want to bother you for a source, but if I cite these figures elsewhere I would need one, and I will, cite these figures if I am able.

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