better screws are torx
Comment on Philips shouldn't exist. Torx plus is the best fight me
massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 month ago
Use better screws, don't screw around.
arin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 month ago
Material matters, if you use poorly made screws that's when the head gets blunted.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Philips screws are intentionally made to strip though. Even the best material can’t fully offset bad design.
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Philips heads are designed to intentionally cam over and limit torque, if you’re using the correct screwdriver that is quite a lot of torque. They certainly have a usecase, but that isn’t anywhere near me. I only use torx.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I read that was just an afterthought to explain away why they strip out so easily, instead of actually redesigning them
socsa@piefed.social 1 month ago
Torx often ends up being the worst of both worlds imo. It grabs too hard and you can easily overdrive it and strip the hole in some material. And you can also still easily strip the head if you don’t get the bit seated all the way. I think the Robinson combo head is the best all around, since you have a Robinson bit for high torque applications and a Phillips bit for low torque and slightly off axis work. And then the “ecx” bit for “I’m going to friction weld this terminal screw shut” applications.
5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Nah, Robertson. Torx is designed to destroy bits.
MoffKalast@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Better screws are hex. Torx belongs in the bin alongside slotted screws.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What makes torx crap? Unlike hex, you can still screw them in if your screwdriver is at an angle, which can be really convenient if you’re working at odd angles.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They make hex keys with ball ends to handle that
Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Torx head screws are the second most popular fastener people pay me money to remove for them after they screw it up.
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Unbrako and hex are great for bolts and machinescrews, on small headed woodscrews I’m a firm believer of the torx masterrace.
Doom@discuss.online 1 month ago
Agreed
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Have you been to a lot of hardware stores with different grades of every of the 257 different types and sizes and thicknesses they carry?
prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 month ago
Years ago when working in a boat shop at a “yachting center” aka “dudes with 20’ sailboats they’ve spent more effort repairing than their marriage” and I had a full wall of hardware.
An old school wooden hardware shelf.
My favorite thing ever in my whole life was being Willy wonka with fasteners and my rolly ladder
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I’ll get the torx universal wood and stone ones, thanks.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I was going to say “don’t screw up”.
xylol@leminal.space 1 month ago
Or the right size screwdriver and apply force down onto the screw as you turn
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Doesn’t matter. It’ll still slip and partly strip it. Maybe only 1/5, but people are not machines.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t underestimate the efforts some people are willing to go to.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Hex screws are pretty good, I’ve never had one strip out
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
They do but you have to really work at it. I see them all the time as set screws on the fans in commercial ovens. Leave a set screw in an oven for years and that bastard will be so profoundly sized that you can round out even a hex screw.
Anchorxiety@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Quit screwing around! You all screw around too much!
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