Comment on Philips shouldn't exist. Torx plus is the best fight me

massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Anchorxiety@reddthat.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Quit screwing around! You all screw around too much!

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• arin@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  better screws are torx

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  • massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Material matters, if you use poorly made screws that's when the head gets blunted.

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    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Philips screws are intentionally made to strip though. Even the best material can’t fully offset bad design.

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      • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Philips heads are designed to intentionally cam over and limit torque, if you’re using the correct screwdriver that is quite a lot of torque. They certainly have a usecase, but that isn’t anywhere near me. I only use torx.

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I read that was just an afterthought to explain away why they strip out so easily, instead of actually redesigning them

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  • socsa@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Torx often ends up being the worst of both worlds imo. It grabs too hard and you can easily overdrive it and strip the hole in some material. And you can also still easily strip the head if you don’t get the bit seated all the way. I think the Robinson combo head is the best all around, since you have a Robinson bit for high torque applications and a Phillips bit for low torque and slightly off axis work. And then the “ecx” bit for “I’m going to friction weld this terminal screw shut” applications.

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  • 5in1k@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nah, Robertson. Torx is designed to destroy bits.

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  • MoffKalast@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Better screws are hex. Torx belongs in the bin alongside slotted screws.

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What makes torx crap? Unlike hex, you can still screw them in if your screwdriver is at an angle, which can be really convenient if you’re working at odd angles.

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      • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They make hex keys with ball ends to handle that

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      • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Torx head screws are the second most popular fastener people pay me money to remove for them after they screw it up.

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    • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Unbrako and hex are great for bolts and machinescrews, on small headed woodscrews I’m a firm believer of the torx masterrace.

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    • Doom@discuss.online ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Agreed

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• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Have you been to a lot of hardware stores with different grades of every of the 257 different types and sizes and thicknesses they carry?

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  • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Years ago when working in a boat shop at a “yachting center” aka “dudes with 20’ sailboats they’ve spent more effort repairing than their marriage” and I had a full wall of hardware.

    An old school wooden hardware shelf.

    My favorite thing ever in my whole life was being Willy wonka with fasteners and my rolly ladder

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ll get the torx universal wood and stone ones, thanks.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I was going to say “don’t screw up”.

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• xylol@leminal.space ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Or the right size screwdriver and apply force down onto the screw as you turn

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  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Doesn’t matter. It’ll still slip and partly strip it. Maybe only 1/5, but people are not machines.

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• Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t underestimate the efforts some people are willing to go to.

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• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hex screws are pretty good, I’ve never had one strip out

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  • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They do but you have to really work at it. I see them all the time as set screws on the fans in commercial ovens. Leave a set screw in an oven for years and that bastard will be so profoundly sized that you can round out even a hex screw.

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