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• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “This is [Barcelona] and we speak [Catalan] here!”

  Is this suddenly a different situation?

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• Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s their country. Aren’t they entitled to make rules?

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  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you tie the availability of housing to whatever language someone speaks instead of something tangible related to the respective person, it’s racism.

    I used Google Lens to translate the bottom text. Do you think that if i would go in there using my phone to translate i would get a room for the night?

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    • vathecka@lemmy.radio ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is a restaurant, not housing

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      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I realized my mistake, but i think i wouldn’t get food either.

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    • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      racism

      Language is not a race.

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    • BlackVenom@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not being able to communicate, participate, doesn’t help either side. Buying a house, without being able to communicate is on its way to forming and insular community and not simply being denied service that is otherwise open to the public.

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      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But this sign is for a restaurant, not for buying property. This is simply racism because they don’t want anyone outside of their cultural circle intruding..

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  • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you believe that anyone existing in America must speak English and only English? If a couple next to you at a cafe are speaking French to each other do you tell them to go back home?

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      America is a country founded upon immigration, so it’s not a comparable example. In broad terms, Japan is historically a fairly homogenous nation ethnically, culturally, and linguistically (and yes, I know those are very broad terms, I’m talking relative to North American countries like the US and Canada).

      If the 1600s-1700s had gone differently, and North America remained predominantly populated by Native peoples speaking Native languages, then yeah I’d say it’s totally within their rights to expect visitors to either learn the local language and attempt to integrate, or be left out of certain parts of society such as restaurants that want to cater exclusively to people who speak Algonquin or whatever.

      Show up in Algiers and try saying “Sorry, I don’t speak Arabic. Do you have a French menu?”

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    • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Do you believe that anyone existing in America must speak English

      Yeah, eventually. If I’m going to live in a country indefinitely, I’m going to try to learn their language. If I’m in France for more than a year, I’m going to try to learn French. I’d expect the same of friends and family. It’s not racist to expect people living in a place long term to be able to converse with the locals.

      If they’re working here for just a summer or two and spending most of the year in another country, no.

      and only English?

      No?

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      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, eventually. If I’m going to live in a country indefinitely, I’m going to try to learn their language.

        We’re not talking about eventually or indefinitely we’re literally just talking about visiting a restaurant for a meal

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      • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So shouldn’t all Americans speak (or at least learn) native American languages? You know, on the account that English isn’t native to America. Neither is Spanish for that matter. Nor French.

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      • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They are even racist to their own… Also you seem to be cursed. So you need to watch the video.

        So you need to watch the video.

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not an expert on Japanese culture, but I don’t think they have the “melting pot” cultural identity that America has had historically.

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      • RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So it’s not xenophobia if you’ve been consistently xenophobic from the start.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    .world btw

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    • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s not their fault which Lemmy server they were born into

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, team sports!

      /s

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