Are you really going to shit on a PC because it’s not a Steam Machine? What kind of weird console-gamer brand loyalty is this?
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JelleWho@lemmy.world 5 days ago
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Does it also come with HDMI CEC?
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Does it come with good basically lifetime support?
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Would it get developers optimise for that exact hardware?
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Would it run as quit and efficient?
I’d you just going for raw hardware speed. And don’t care about anything else. You can always make a faster system yourself.
But I know enough people who don’t dare to touch anything near a computer, who are looking into this cube
eleijeep@piefed.social 5 days ago
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 5 days ago
The last thing i’d ever want to do is go with a kit for SFF. I have built exclusively for over 20 years at this point and picking a motherboard, cooling solution, PSU and overall internals myself tends to get me something that is better quality than a kit using cheaper versions of everything they can’t sell to fit a price point. I don’t think i’ve done a build as cheap as 1k since I was a teenager, but i’m not just buying the most expensive shit either.
Those silverstone cases are super fugly. It’s like they haven’t updated shit since 2010, and this kind of lines up since that case is well over a decade old. The case can only fit GPUs that are up to 270mm long by 129mm tall, which really limits what you can put in there. My steel legend 9070xt is 298 x 131, so it can’t fit in two dimensions. I have a 3070 suprim that is 335mm x 140mm, that thing is never gonna fit either. You have to really seek out something that fits.
If I was going to give someone advice on a smaller / ITX build today i’d say go with something way more comfortable to work with like a Cooler Master NP200. My last build is a 25L ATX build with no sacrifices. Cable management is one hell of a struggle.
Very possible to build something that will be faster for cheaper, or grab a deal on a gaming laptop around the same price with better ram/storage and similar GPU, but there’s no way to build something smaller than the machine really.
Dremor@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Good questions. I don’t know all the answers but I can give you at least those.
- warranty is 5 years
- hardwares are standard, if it works on the Steam Machive, it will work on that one
- HDMI CEC I don’t know. It works on my Linux HTPC, so I don’t see why it xouldn’t work for this one.
- As for quietness, I can’y say, but I suppose it uses the stock cooler.
the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Bit of a tangent but could you grace me with the wisdom of how you got CEC to work? I see many conflicting things online and don’t know what hardware/software I need to achieve this. This is the one thing my Bazzite HTPC doesn’t have yet :(
Dremor@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It has been a while since I’ve set it up, but I remember using this dkernel documentations.
docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/media/cec.html
My setup was based on a Raspberry Pi 3 (I believe), and your hardware (including the cable) need to have the specific pin for it to work.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Good support and Valve? Like, I get people rushing in to defend GabeN here. Especially considering the Summer Sale is currently ongoing. But their support is shit. From my experience you either like what they give you or you get your money back. Little to nothing in between. Gaming Jesus doesn‘t really do compromises so can we at least stop pretending Steam Support is an actual functional instance? It definitely was‘t for me so far and neither do I expect it to be at this point.
JelleWho@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I have so far had 4 advance replacement (get new hardware, ship old hardware back later) for free. Even outside warranty period. And this story is the same for all my friends as far as I know off.
So I guess we both had quite some different experiences
cookiecoookie@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You must be the luckiest person alive! I had to pay for my RMA steam deck and shipping both ways one week after warranty expired because it refused to turn on one day.
arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 4 days ago
Can‘t say I‘ve hand trouble with their hardware support.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
From your own experience, in your own words, you said they either solve your problem or they solve it a different way. How is that shit support?
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
It also probably does not come with the Steam pug preinstalled on the board, so you have a pug constantly plugged in into a USB. From the listing it looks like one has to install SteamOS themselves? It says “tutorial included on this page”. However it might be more powerful. In the end, this is better than a do it yourself option, if you try to do the exact same thing I guess. The biggest win for the end user is, that this is readily available without waiting until next year.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
lol a cute badass. At least I was consistent.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 days ago
How do Steam machine users charge their Steam Controller then? Just with a USB-C cable? I prefer my external pug to that. The Steam Controller would be kind of a silly product if you wouldn‘t get a good experience without a Steam Machine so this argument is kind of silly too if you ask me. Would be cool if the controller came with a proper stand, though. You shouldn‘t expect your customers to own a 3D printer even though I totally support Valve embracing it but the controller really feels incomplete without it.
charles@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Valve’s logic (as shown in the Steam Machine overview video) is that you use the integrated puck for the actual connection and then you can use the puck that comes with the controller anywhere to charge the controller (such as by your couch). The standalone puck then just needs power since it’s not handling any communication.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Don’t forget the size of this thing. SM should be compared to minipcs, not ATX towers.
Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Does the steam machine having HDMI CEC mean it will be able to stream HD video from streaming services etc?
TheRealKuni@piefed.social 5 days ago
I kinda doubt it. CEC lets it turn your receiver and TV on when it turns on, and off when it turns off. And lets it adjust volume. Stuff like that.
At the end of the day it’s still running Linux and my understanding is that streaming services don’t trust Linux users.
Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Ah I was getting it confused with HDCP
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
No, but SteamOS does support HDR over HDMI
grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They’re wasting their money then. But fools have a way of accruing money they don’t deserve, for whatever reasons.
Rothe@piefed.social 5 days ago
The tear-down GamersNexus did of the Steam cube showed that a lot of very good engineering has gone into designing it so that not only does it run smoothly and without overheating despite its compact shape, it is also relatively easy to access all components and repairability is high.
Just a shame they had to settle for subpar components on account of the AI cartel.