It’s been said a million times that the human battery thing makes no sense in terms of energy production. But the other huge sin the Matrix commits is having humans block out the sun so robots can’t get solar power. That is ridiculously stupid. Humans need to grow crops. I rest my case. It’s stupid. I love these movies, but that part is just plain stupid.
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Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The Matrix hits different once you realize everything was humanity’s fault
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
There’s conflicting stories about it so it’s hard to verify, but apparently the battery thing was a rewrite.
Apparently originally the people plugged into the matrix were meant to be the very hardware the matrix was run on. As in all their brains together formed a literal neural network that provided the processing power to run the matrix. This is then why knowing it’s not real and believing you can do “the impossible” within the matrix can cause you to be able to bend reality. The story goes that executives thought it was too high of a concept for audiences to grasp and demanded the change to the battery explanation to make it simpler to follow.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The fun part is that the inhabitants of Zion are, canonically, shown to have very incomplete information about the actual state of the world, their own history.
Neo is told basically ‘we think it is the year 2XXX, but really, we have no idea’, in the first movie.
Without spoiling much… Morpheus is wrong about some things, some pretty important things.
Hell, so is the Architect and even the Oracle says that some things are beyond her ability to predict.
But anyway… its entirely possible that the battery explanation is just another thing that Morpheus, the broad understanding of Zion itself, is wrong about.
So this doesn’t actually ‘break’ the canon at all.
In fact, I’d argue that it makes the idea of ‘free your mind’ even more interesting and complex.
Even the truthseekers and truthtellers… can be wrong.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, it was changed because someone thought that the explanation scene wouldn’t work if they were holding up a CPU. They forced them to use a battery instead, forever ruining the backstory.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Apparently Neil Gaiman invented that theory but it was never confirmed by the w. brothers
Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
*W. Sisters now.
Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I’d never heard Neil Gaiman as the origin of that theory. I’d always heard it came from commentary on the DVDs myself. I just don’t own the films. But I guess that’d be the conflicting stories bit right?
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve heard this too, but even this has an issue. It’s circular. Why imprison humans so their brains can be used to run the matrix which is designed to imprison them?
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Presumably the brain network was performing more than the task of simulation. I.E performing processing tasks for the machines. More humans = more brains = more processing headroom (ha, clever) for more machines.
Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
i mean they kind of go into that in the movies don’t they? The machines didn’t want to completely destroy humanity. So they tried to create the matrix as “The Perfect Prison” for them. Using their own minds to create the very prison to hold them in would fit right into that wouldn’t it?
Folstar@lemmus.org 2 months ago
Yeah, humans would never destroy natural resources in favor of some tech fix or just kinda assume that the planet would fix itself… /s
My headcannon on the human battery thing is that the machines have core programming to make reasonable efforts to preserve human life. Designing power reactors (look how thick the cores are on the towers) with humans slapped to the side technically aligns with the core programming while allowing them to stick it to us apes. It’s also why the attack on Zion was one tentacle abductor machine for each human instead of dumping super plague down the hole and calling it a day.
plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
the trans allegory kicks ass so we can ignore an inconsistency or two
cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Yes it’s literally just situationism.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
We fucked up, but it wasn’t because we blackend the sky,
Humans made the machines
Machines failed enslave us properly :)
We failed to put in proper safeguards and failed to make the machines good enough to either wipe us out or contain us with proper safeguards :)
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
“<film> hits different once you listen to what the characters say” is truly a take
SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 months ago
Let people grow, man.
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
fair actually
farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
if you know something i don’t are a nerd and if you don’t know something i know then you are an idiot
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Whatever, nerd.
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
objectively correct, making everyone simultaneously a nerd and an idiot, which cancels out.
except santa, the fucken nerd
rishado@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Letting people call you out on online forums is a part of growth, it was for me and I feel like it was for many of us
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Was referring to the Animatrix 1st and 2nd Renaissance genius.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Damn, they accused you of not paying attention and then you brought out the deep lore
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
i’ve seen animatrix but it’s also, like, in the original
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Morpheus literally says they dont know who striked first. The Matrix doesnt mention anything about how or why the war started. Just that it started. The Animatrix tells you that the war started because the robot capital had basically destroyed the global economy so humans tried to wipe them out
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Fight Club really hits different when you realize the main character is Tyler Durden
Avatar really hits different when you realize the Navi are just defending themselves.
Indiana Jones really hits different when you realize the bad guys are Nazis.
Jurassic park really hits different when you realize John Hammond ignored all the warnings.
John Wick really hits different when you realize they killed his dog.
Star Wars really hits different when you realize the chosen one bringing balance meant revitalizing the dark side.
… Old men like me don’t bother with making points. There’s no point.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
There’s two ways to consume any content. Sometimes Moby Dick is just a whale and Matrix is a movie about a guy who learns to fight really fast.
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
the santa clause really hits different when you realise the title refers to the rule, not the person
reptar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ohhhhhhh
marcos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They don’t say that in the first movie.
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
not explicitly in a line, but the whole “scorched the sky” monologue is pretty damning of humanity.