Distraction from the Epstein files, amongst other things. I straight up call this the Epstein war.
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RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 1 day agoSo why was NOW the time? What’s the USA really gaining here with these strikes?
Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Kyouki@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As well as calling Iran attempted to influence elections while Trump tries to get national emergency powers enacted so he can cancel elections.
4am@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
To bring detail to this, the Republican Party has been wanting this for a long time. Some want the oil control, some have fanatical religious beliefs (encouraged by the greedy oil-wanting ones) that want to see Israel win because it brings about the “end of days” and they will be “raptured” into heaven (body and all) while the rest of us foolish non-believers perish in hell.
Trump and Co. are using this desire of theirs to make them happy with him, distracting from the disgusting crimes that are coming to light about him. They won’t remove him and his criminal cabal from power if he keeps them happy by giving them the things they’ve always wanted, so they get to keep living and be in power as long as those freaks are happy.
As ridicule this sounds, there are many many people in power who would oppose removing Trump, and have the ability to cris any dissent that would do so outside of the process of law, which they currently control through state violence. So, it’s not so easy as “fuck you guys, you’re insane, we’re not listening to you anymore, he’s gone” since they hold all the cards and that leads to a much bigger conflict for control of the most powerful nation on earth.
Ironically, the current state of Iran is a good analogue for what happens when a sudden power vacuum appears, and we don’t want to be ruled by a Christian cabal any more than we want what we currently have.
As much as we deserve it after all this, I sure hope we don’t find out; if only for my own sake.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
In the past, there have been moves against Iran (sanctions and the sort that are worsening their already mismanaged economy) but the recent strikes have been down mostly because Iran doesn’t really have any allies that are able to support them should they get attacked. Russia has their invasion of Ukraine that they are grinding soldiers in, and the Assads have been overthrown in Syria. Their bad bad economy also means they have lots of domestic issues too, making them super vulnerable.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
and many of the naughty Iranian proxies have also been weakened through a hellfire of Israeli and American bombing, like the Houthis in Yemen, Hamas in Gaza, and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Russia is impotent to act. Iran had recent protests indicating that the regime is weak. China has not done anything preemptive and can’t do anything now because it’s too late.
Best case protests reignites and replaces the regime with something less US hostile. Worst case denies China cheap oil and Russia some war materials for a while.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
China? Why would China give a fuck about Iran?
It’s 2025, not 1980.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
They don’t really care about Iran other than that they are useful for annoying the US and they have oil they are forced to sell at a discount due to western sanctions.
IronBird@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
all these other comments are giving far too much credit to those in-power in the US right.
the only thing that matters to republicans, all establishment US politicians really, is that their lines go up. republicans actively try to crash the US economy every time their in power, as they’re abject disaster capitalists…smart people have to hedge when instability threatens their bottom line, disaster capitalists essentially run around throwing rocks at windows.
everything this sociopathic cunts do is ultimately used as a way to extract liquidity out of the US stock/futures/bond markets…every…single…time. follow the money
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Distraction. Americans have a long history of supporting any asshole as President the second they declare war.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The Epstein files are the reason
Zomg@piefed.world 1 day ago
Depends on who you ask. I think topically it feels like it’s an Epstein files distraction. There’s also the whole issue with them enriching uranium for nuclear weapons. It doesn’t help that Israel leadership has been crying wolf about “Iran will have nukes in the next 3 years” since the 90s.
It’s likely they are working to get nuclear weapons, and given that they fund all this terrorist stuff, it can’t be ignored. They’ve already been caught enriching uranium to levels beyond what’s needed for any peaceful application.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 day ago
If you look at news from the past few months you see Iranians were in famine and drought and political violence leading to many protestor deaths in Tehran and the Iranian leadership moving out of the capital. Now was the perfect time to strike.
porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 day ago
That’s happened a few times before hasn’t it?
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Israel has some real, incontrovertible dirt on Trump that they are holding over him
He’s also desperate to have the US at war so he can suspend elections, because he knows that he will be hurt by the midterms
He’s also pathetically insecure, and history has traditionally looked back fondly at wartime leaders like Churchill and the like. He’s hoping for that
And the worst motivation, but one that I sincerely believe is accurate, is that he wants to use nuclear weapons. He wants to be remembered as a president who pushed the button. He’s a child, and he wants to play with all the toys
I hope he dies before he can do more harm
Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
A key thing to note is that it’s normally defensive leaders that are looked back on fondly. Attacking another nation usually doesn’t give this boost, or at least not as significantly. Frequently it’s negative in fact.
He’s too stupid to understand this though, if this is his reason. I don’t think it is though. At best, it’s a distraction. At worst, and more likely, it’s an excuse to implement policies that expand his powers, and maybe to prevent elections from taking place.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
I.have no.idea what they’d know.that isn’t public already. In the past I’d say the Epstein connection but that’s all public. What the fuck could be in the files we don’t know about?
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Only half of the files have been released.
snooggums@piefed.world 1 day ago
Not even half.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Murder, rape, pedophilia directly linked to government.