Me too. I’m not really into VR but I definitely want the GabeCube.
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baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Intriguing. Eager to see the price of the Steam Machine.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have a PSVR2 and I don’t consider the capability of VR to be its failure. I have to assume it’s just that much harder and more expensive to develop for VR. Like the FPS genre is hugely successful, and that’s such a natural fit for VR.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
I think it’s just an accessibility thing. VR is expensive, and it takes people pushing through some disorientation/nausea to really enjoy it. Many will simply feel sick the first few times they try it, decide it’s not for them and leave it.
Rooster326@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
You really shouldn’t push through the nausea. That’s how it gets worse.
If you start feeling sick. Put it down.
But yes. And that’s why the games are still such a limited selection compared to flat screen.
No long campaigns in VR.
riskable@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Just place a fan on the floor in front of you. Bam! No nausea. Because now you body instinctively knows your position and orientation in the space you’re in.
It’s such a simple thing but it really works!
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My thoughts exactly. I’m a console gamer. So a straightforward all-in-one box is great.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
… and this also just is a linux computer.
Just go into desktop mode, plug in a mouse and keyboard, your TV is your monitor.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
slaps This bad dude can fit so many use cases on it.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
GLaDoS may or may not flood your home with neurotoxin if you try this, but uh, you could run a local LLM on it, and thus just have your own AI catgirlfriend or maybe lightweight coding assistant w/e.
I’ve futzed about with OpenLlama on a Bazzite Deck, there aren’t too many models lightweight enough to run, but some of them work!
… Yeah don’t let GLadOs know about that.
Definetly not.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
You might say that that would be a red letter day.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Some are estimating around $800, but Steam has commented that affordability is a primary focus.
I feel like they’ve got to beat console prices. I’m hoping we see prices similar to steam deck at launch complete with varying tiers.
tyrant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gamers Nexus reported cost will be in line with budget PCs and not competing with console pricing
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If it hooks up to the tv and has controllers, it is 100% going to compete.
nogooduser@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They didn’t say that it wouldn’t compete. They said that it wouldn’t compete on price.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
My guess would be that around $800 sounds roughly right… if you try to approximate a small form factor pc with… roughly those specs?
You’d kinda end up around there, but… the architecture is so nonstandard, its hard to say.
You gotta think of it as an SFF PC not a console.
Because its closer to an SFF PC than it is to a console.
Right like, this thing is also a PC, its a laptop or w/e if you plug a mouse and keyboard into it.
I run desktop mode on my Deck all the time, use it as a laptop of sorts.
As far as tiers go, GN has said there are plans for a 512 GB and 2TB variant, so, there’s at least two tiers… I would not expect like, more or less GDDR5/6 RAM variants though, the whole thing is built too much around the exact power draw and thermal load.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But on the other hand, Valve have economies of scale, so they can build this thing cheaper than a normal person can build a PC. Plus, they don’t need to make a huge profit on this stuff. The purpose of the hardware is to sell games. At least that’s what I’ll keep telling myself until we find out more.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
But on the other other hand, tariffs, and RAM just doubled in cost in like the last month, because… well this time its not bitcoin miners buying all the GPUs, its… the entire AI industry is a multi trillion dollar scam.
Hilariously, one way to read this announcement is that Valve expects the AI bubble to blow up by ‘early next year’, thus lowering RAM costs, ahahaha!
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
There’s no display, no battery, no controller included, no OS fees.. I think it could be cheaper than $800.
Because it’s all custom hardware we don’t really have a great basis for comparison. I’m going to guess that the cheapest variant will be something like $650. Doubt more than $700 though.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Agree it has be price competitive with consoles. Though I wonder if making a docked Deck be on equal footing with the Machine would have been a better use of R&D. Maybe simply improving having the dock house an eGPU and bumping the Deck specs.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The deck is a bit underpowered for 4k. Most TVs are 4k these days, so the machine needs to be good at that.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Right, that’s what I’m saying. Make a v2 Deck with upgraded CPU/memory, and put the GPU in the dock so it can do 4k on a big screen. I’m sure “Deck v2 is 4x more powerful than v1 and you can dock it for 4k @ 60fps on the big screen” would be just as good a marketing line as “Machine is 6x more powerful than a Deck”.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t think it has an Occulink port.
So… yeah you can maybe try to eGPU it a bit through USB 3.2 Gen 2?
Maybe?
I don’t know that would make much sense though.
Or!
Maybe we do the FrankenDeck thing, take the SSD out, adapt that as an Occulink, run all the storage memory off of MicroSD cards, LOL.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean like a v2 Steam Deck and Dock. Give the Deck a bump in CPU/RAM/storage specs and new external ports to facilitate having the GPU in the dock. It could technically even be an externalized PCIe connector instead of Thunderbolt/USB. In handheld mode you get the iCPU limited to 1080, but dock it on the big screen and now you get full 4k @ 60 FPS. Add an HDMI port so you do 1080 on a big screen without a dock.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No, it would not. Buulding a Steam Deck that’s 6x more powerful (the claimed comparison for the Steam Machine) is NOT possible with today’s technology. For anyone.
The Steam Deck has to be hand portable and get somewhat decent battery life. That leaves little little space for a cooling solution. You cannot beat thermodynamics.