Consider the Navel Orange. Completely unable to reproduce on its own, yet it has millions of progeny because of people like you!
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mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Sadly I’ve still never seen any real papers on this being an actual theory.
I’m still want to believe I’m Ent livestock though.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 2 days ago
Every seedless fruit is a testament of how humanity has deviated from its original, seed nurturing purpose.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
its a clone of a clone, much like the cavendish bannana, and cultivars of watermelons. and apples too.
fun fact, there is actually a cold tolerant wild orange that grows in the wild, the trifoliate orange, but its not edible, and it has thorns, and its more resistant to disease than domesticated oranges.
Bring_Back_Buggy_Whips@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Navel gazers?
mushroommunk@lemmy.today 1 day ago
That reminds me. Need to go clone some grape cultivars and do some more guerilla gardening at my buddy’s house
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Bacteria grow us for their homes
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Brb, gotta go buy some cat food.
Triti@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, toxoplasmosis is a parasite! Very different! Parasites are also susceptible to bacterial and viral diseases!
FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Against The Grain by James C Scott touches on the “who actually domesticated who” question.
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The botany of desire is a fun book written on the subject. Michael Pollan is not a scientist though, he’s a science and environmental journalist and Harvard professor.
deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
It’s because it doesn’t really make sense, plants came before animals. Plants do not need us to survive, but we need plants to survive.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Plants came before moths, but there are some desert plants whose life cycle is dependent on a species of moth pollinating them. How things were in the past influences but isn’t the sole arbiter of how things are in the present or future.
deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Some being a key word there. Plants, as a whole, are not dependent on mammals for their existence.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Yeah, I don’t think the OP was saying every plant in existence is dependent on humans. But crops are, and we’re dependent on them. Co-domestication, I guess.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
plants like magnolia used beetles for pollination, magnoliads being a very ancient lingeage of plants. its only very later before bees, moths, and then butterflies became the dominant pollinators, and then mammals.
jrs100000@lemmy.world 2 days ago
We don’t need chickens to survive either. It doesn’t mean we didn’t domesticate them.
Manjushri@piefed.social 1 day ago
Plants need us animals to turn that oxygen they produce back into carbon dioxide for them.
deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Nope, fungi and other decomposers do that.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m decomposing with the best of them, my friend.
MalReynolds@piefed.social 1 day ago
Eh, oxygen builds up, fire, CO2…
OpenStars@piefed.social 1 day ago
Which MOST plants seem to want to avoid… (although for others it has become a necessity, depends on what you are used to I guess)
codemankey@programming.dev 1 day ago
Things change tho, they can “evolve” so to say.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
plants came from red algae i believe, that was able to survive on land as primitive bryphytes, or thier ancestors. carbiniferous period is when they really took off. Plants encorporated both chloroplast and mitochondria endosymbionts in thier evolution.