I don’t live in America, and many people here actually do use MAGA or Trumpism to describe the local right wing people and parties because they are largely just copying America…
No they are fascists, Nazi was the shorthand for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), the first 4 letters.
Fascism gets its name from Italy, Mussolini’s Fascist Party, but it is the name for the political ideology as a whole, there is no Nazism and Americans being called Nazis is kinda weird, imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.
Thanks for coming to my stickler talk.
Humana@lemmy.world 1 day ago
BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What do you call people who wear red and black swastikas and say heil Hitler while doing a salute typical of the Nazi party?
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
assholes.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Lazy and derivative
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Romans?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Imagine gatekeeping nazis.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day ago
imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.
It’s semantics. The German and American fascists all pull from the same ideological and rhetorical playbook.
Veneration of the national security state. Zealous religious orthodoxy. Obsession with loyalty oaths and ethnicity sorting. Reflexive xenophobia. Institutionalized quackery.
It’s all the same shit. Same as Apartheid Africa. Same as Kuomanting China. Same as Pinochet’s Chile and Milei’s Argentina.
uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 23 hours ago
Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist though. The party wasn’t called Nazi, the members were.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
It was and is literally called the Nazi Party en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
The Nazi Party,[b] officially the National Socialist German Workers’ Party
uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 1 hour ago
I am German. We don’t call it that. Nobody says Nazipartei, it’s NSDAP. Nazi Party is an English expression and has nothing to do with the etymology of the word Nazi.
Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist. de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi (the english version of this article points to the ideology of nazism, the original is about the term. Use a translator if you’re interested.)
It was coined in the 1920s and it’s not an American term. You call the party Nazi Party because it was the party of the nazis, not the other way around.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
If the situation were flipped, and Hitler was rising to power ~80 years after we had a massive war to take out MAGA fascists, then yeah I think people would refer to them as “MAGA”, at least at first.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nazi doesn’t mean national socialist, as I said it’s literally just the first 4 letters, a shorthand a nickname, American version for Republicans would be Repu/Repus.
Lots of people I have seen that think it’s Nazi because the Sozialistische has the Zi, it’s nonsense, Nazional is how germans pronounce National, hence it’s shortened to Nazi.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Ridiculously pedantic. Come on.
monogram@feddit.nl 11 hours ago
You are confusing National Socialism with Leftist-Nationalism
The reason Hitler added Social to their party name was because it was political suicide not to, not because they where socialists.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean, so was my first comment, not sure what you expected 😃
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
IMO it’s more offensive to call MAGAs a Nazi. And I’m certainly looking for maximum effect. I couldn’t care less about the etymology of Nazi.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I call them Repubs at this point because they don’t want to say things like “Democratic politicians” opting instead for “Democrat politicians” because they’re worried democratic sounds too good.
I think republican sounds too good. They don’t want a republic, they want a tyrant.
Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 day ago
So, tyrannist? Hmm that’s not catchy. Maybe just autocrat but that doesn’t contain the root of the word tyrannus. Best I got for ya.
causepix@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
How about nationalist?