Why are you being charitable to a greentext poster lmfao. It’s like when the skinhead starts saying dogwhistles and someone is like “well maybe he doesn’t know it’s a dog whistle”.
Idk man, maybe you’ve not been exposed to enough 4chan.
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Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks agoI think they’re trying to say that he doesn’t even feel like her backup, he’s her backup x times removed. Which kinda undercuts his point a bit, but does set the stage for a complete removal of attraction and the very particular manic ending they wrote for their story
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
sure, let’s just assume malice or ill intent whenever possible, and forget about any empathy or sympathy.
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bro. We are talking about a 4chan greentext poster. What more do you want me to fucking say? Are you joking?
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
i’m just tired of internet toxicity tbh. Not as in “Oh no, they laugh about Kirk’s assasination”, mind you, that shit is actually hillarious, neither i care about anyone’s political oriantation as long as they’re a decent human being. I’m talking about this unprompted toxic bullshit like “oh, they’re using this site, they must be a jerk!”. That’s literally the same rhetoric that politicians use to create “us vs them” narrative, except they do it on another basis like nationality or whatever.
Did your day go so wrong that you need to let it all out somehow, but this is the only way you found? Genuinely asking btw
sleen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Idk man, maybe you’ve not been exposed to enough 4chan.
Or maybe he has experienced enough 4chan to the point where he realises those hidden meanings.
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
??? 😭 we just out here defending incel-adjacent language being used on 4chan?
Comrade_Spood@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
This video I feel explains why I feel like
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
There’s something insulting about being the one she wants to settle down with after a bunch of flings etc.
When’s my turn to have fun?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Who was stopping you?
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Nobody wanted to have fun with me.
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you feel like you were owed “fun” from other people?
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Then go to a tabletop game shop and have fun on D&D night, or Warhammer! Lots of fun there
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They were stopping themselves
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
It be true, I do stop myself
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I hope some day you can reflect on this statement and realise the toxicity behind it.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What’s toxic about wanting better than being the backup option?
Kushan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nothing at all, but that last line, “When is my turn to have fun?” Is a bit transactional, like there’s an expectation and that’s the problematic part.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The toxicity is the weird incel framing around the whole thing. It leans heavily into incel tropes about how women sleep around with physically attractive asshole men when younger and then look for a more stable “nice guy” men when older. The trope is that women will reproduce with asshole gym bro types and then seek relationships with nerds to obtain resources to raise the children they’ve given birth to. It’s the classic cuckhold meme.
The “backup option” part is the toxic thing. It frames women as farm animals looking for a mate, rather than actual complex human beings with different desires and changing personalities through their whole lives. Aka, just like men. People change, and they want different things at different points in their life.
It’s not that the woman in the story fucked a bunch of guys and then, as a last resort, settled for OP. I mean, just think of how absurd that idea is. It is literally not possible to run out of people to sleep with. They don’t think OP is beneath them and have always felt that way, only settling for them now. Why would she need to? There’s no shortage of other men out there if she thinks OP is beneath her.
Rather, people just want different things at different points in their lives. OP didn’t tick that box years earlier, but now maybe he does. She wasn’t attracted to him then, but she is now. The heart just works that way sometimes. There’s no need to add a bunch of incel bullshit to what is easily explainable as the complexities of human emotion.
The reason this is so toxic is that it’s applying this weird bizarre manipulative behavior to the woman in the story - aka parroting incel themes. It accuses her of this deliberate years-long plot, working through a long list of men she finds superior until finally settling for OP. This isn’t how human beings actually behave. Instead, she just happened to not be attracted to OP before, but happens to be now. You don’t need to go into it any deeper than that. People are complex and their hearts change.
This “backup option” framing is just really toxic and creepy.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think the toxic part is what was added by ilovethebomb. They never asked this and seemed to have genuinely moved on.