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Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My brother in christ, the military was segregated during world war 2.

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  • JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, pretty much any positive time in the US, we gotta remember that Black folks were excluded from the positive aspects of those times. Intentionally.

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  • Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ok… Before that slavery and after that hyper imperialism. This is why I said for the most part. Plus ww2 had a lot of firsts for racial and gender equality.

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    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The hyper imperialism kinda kicked off before ww2, it was kinda the reason we got involved in the first place.

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    • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      (was just teasing, I still think it’s good we participated on the right side at least, because that wasn’t always going to go that way).

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    • bufalo1973@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Monroe doctrine? War against Spain?

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• klemptor@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We dropped not just one but two of the most horrific weapon ever developed on a civilian population.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Most horrific weapons dropped on a civilian population so far.

    Although given the state of Palestine, I can’t say dropping lots of small bombs is any better.

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    • Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well that is what was already happening to japan and particularly tokyo, less people died from the nukes than died from the napalm bombing of tokyo.

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  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well it’s not like you can use drop “the bomb that was meant to be invented 700 years later” to a military base or two to scare your enemies.

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• BlueLineBae@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ah yes, that time we put asians in concentration camps. Pretty cool. /s

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  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And the guy who signed the order is a hero to liberals to this day

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    • FerretyFever0@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And Reagan, let's remember that.

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• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Didn’t the US consider joining the axis but only joined the allies because they stood to make bank helping rebuild Europe?

  And wasn’t the only Nazi rally outside of Germany held in the US, in Madison Square Garden?

  And didn’t the US turn two cities in Japan into glass and ash?

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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t believe we legitimately considered joining the axis, as a nation.

    We did however have awful “leaders” with fascist ideologies … and they never went away.

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  • lmagitem@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The US only joined the allies because of Japan’s war declaration. They were mostly happy making bank with both sides before that.

    The communications systems in german tanks were working with Graham Bell technology. Their electronics were big on american parts too. Part of the oil that fueled the invasion of Poland and France was from the US. A big part of US’ elites were pro-Hitler (for them the guy was a godsend against communism). The safest places to hide during the American bombings in Germany were the IBM factories.

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  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    USA under Franklin Roosevelt was probably the only time the country was firmly at the highest peak of moral ground.

    As for the rhetorical questions, you make it sound as though US fascists were in power to effect influence and policy change. They have been loud but never been influential enough. FDR have made sure of that.

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  • Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They turned way more cities than that into ash.

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  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think there was some consideration towards joining or at least aligning with the central powers during WW1 but there was basically no interest with joining the Axis in WW2.

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• FerretyFever0@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That's a big nahhhh from me, chief. Japanese-Americans might have some words for you.

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  • Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Again before that, slavery, after that Imperialism and now new concentration camps and exile.

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• Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Except for the 2 and half years they just sat on the sidelines.

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  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Nah. Lend lease was in full swing, and they were sanctioning the imperial Japanese. Hindsight is 20/20, there was a glimmer of hope at the time that the problem could be resolved with political pressure. Putting boots on the ground without trying anything else first is Bush doctrine level bullshit.

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Canada seemed to have it figured out.

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      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        At that point in history Canada would have followed the British crown wherever it went. If Britain had sided with Hitler Canada would have been an axis power.

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    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Lend lease was in full swing, and they were sanctioning the imperial Japanese.

      Not really… Sanctions against Japan and Lend and lease were approved the same year we entered the war.

      there was a glimmer of hope at the time that the problem could be resolved with political pressure.

      I mean, that’s what both the Japanese and the Nazi were hoping for. That the rest of the world would settle for peace and allow them to keep their spoils.

      Putting boots on the ground without trying anything else first is Bush doctrine level bullshit.

      And when has appeasing fascist with political discourse ever worked? There’s a difference between standing up to literal fascist invading allies, and Bush’s “war on terror”, trying to conflate the two is pathetic.

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      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I mean, that’s what both the Japanese and the Nazi were hoping for. That the rest of the world would settle for peace and allow them to keep their spoils.

        Oh, ok. That must be why the Japanese attacked the US, right? Because they were hoping for peace.

        There’s a difference between standing up to literal fascist invading allies, and Bush’s “war on terror”,

        Saddam Hussein was just as racist, nationalist, authoritarian, expansionist, and cruel as Benito Mussolini. So what exactly is the difference?

        trying to conflate the two is pathetic.

        Fuck you

        when has appeasing fascist with political discourse ever worked?

        You sound like a republican, circa 2003

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Hey, let’s play a game. Any time someone says something good, you guys shit all over it.

  Wait, did you all start without me?

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