I do Not See the fraud here. If He would have given the Girls His real Birthday, He would have still received the Same amount of Gifts. Nothing would have changed in exchanging the Gifts.
The only Thing, which it probably helped at, was that He could plan ahead for the birthdays, avoiding a Potential meet-in of each girl, that He dated on the Same Day. The only Thing He is gullible of ist deceiving the Woman on their Relationship. Which is Not an offenes in a legal Sense. There is no punishment for 2-timing, so 35-timing should Not have either
knight_alva@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a poor definition because gift exchanges are strictly voluntary and non-reciprocal engagements. I’m not saying what he did was ok or even legal in other contexts. My only point is that I wouldn’t consider this fraud because the victims were not compelled to give. This isn’t a Nigerian prince scam where the victims were promised greater returns at a later date. These victims gave with the expectation of monetary loss.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Seems to fit the official definition pretty neatly. Colloquially, I tend to agree with you, there’s a spectrum for fraud. But this still counts as fraud. It’s a fraudulent misrepresentation of the truth to convince others to part with something of value (a gift).
The fact that it’s a gift doesn’t change that this is fraud, only the severity of fraud in a legal sense. Image
Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Advertising and politics?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 day ago
laws don’t apply to politicians.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 day ago
great, y’all want to get into Japanese criminal legal definitions?
knight_alva@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fraud in the sense that the guy is lying and profiting from it, sure. But the common / google definition of a word and the legal definition/ application of that word are two completely different things.
LwL@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
They’re technically voluntary but also socially expected. I’m not sure about birthday gifts in particular but Japan is a country where if you go on holiday somewhere you’re expected to bring a gift for each of your coworkers, and people will think worse of you for not doing that. I’d be kind of surprised if omitting birthday gifts for your romantic partner without prior agreement is a real option.
Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
By that logic, fake fundraisers and romance scams shouldn’t be illegal either.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
So, it’s not fraud if I tell my grandma with dementia that it’s my birthday once a week so she keeps giving me birthday checks?
knight_alva@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Your grandma having dementia changes the formula a bit.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Not really, no. It’s still using deception for material gain through gift giving. Maybe it’s more of an extreme case, but I was being hyperbolic.