Comment on LGBTQIA++

Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  if the ‘+’ includes every not mentioned gender/sexuality anyways, why can’t we just say ‘L+’?

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    IT folks solved this ages ago.

    {A-Z}+

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    • 1st@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The second I have to use regular expressions I'm turning straight.

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      • Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think being fluent in regular expressions probably makes you involuntarily celebrate so orientation won't matter.

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    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      wouldn’t that match STRAIGHT ? 🤔

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  • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “The Gays™” generally gets the point across.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because then it doesn’t feel like equal representation for everyone. It feels like Lesbians are getting the most representation with everyone being an after thought. While lesbians are awesome, it does feel shitty for everyone else. That’s why so many additions have been made. It doesn’t feel representative of everyone or equal. Also why I throw the whole thing out and just call us all something else. No one gets specific representation but it goes back to the original meaning of the Pride flag. Every color in equal representation, showing the diversity of us all and how we all deserve to be seen and heard.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I get the criticism, but most countries are not in the term “The United Nations” either. It feels possible to make a grouped, organized label that supports minority sexuality groups and opposes bigotry.

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      • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But most countries are not in the term “The United Nations” either

        I mean… no country is in that term. That’s the point that I’m trying to make. If you have a name for a collection of individual groups then the collective name shouldn’t mention any one particular group.

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    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Naw, we just need to come up with words for different types of people that all start with L. Then we’ll be covered.

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      • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lobsters.

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    • Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also why I throw the whole thing out and just call us all something else.

      true equality would either be just ‘+’, without any letters, or including every letter, which seems impossible.

      or like you said, something completely else. I personally like [please don’t kill me] ‘alphabet people’. I understand that rightoids use this term as an insult so it isn’t usable, which is a shame, because apart from its negative connotation it has a few nice upsides:

      • sexualities/genders are being abbreviated by single letters already and since the alphabet contains all letters, everyone is included

      -‘people’ is completely neutral towards everyone as well

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      • octoperson@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wouldn’t be the first time a term of abuse got appropriated by its target group

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because L+ is the only streaming service I’d pay for

    Seriously though the history of lgbt as an acronym comes down to the fact that it began with gay men and lesbians organizing separately and bi and trans people being part of those organizations, but bisexual and trans groups began differentiating and separately organizing while we all began realizing we needed to work together more in order to actually change things.

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• OneWomanCreamTeam@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is why I’ve always preferred the term GSRM: Gender, Sexual, and Romantic Minorities. It’s fully inclusive without ballooning out to an absurd size. I see no signs that it will see common use in the near future though.

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  • MBM@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ironically I remember it being just GSM. I see where the R comes from though

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• CobblerScholar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve also heard this used as a pejorative but I really like the term, “alphabet mafia”

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I do like it because there is some reclaiming and also some jokes but know who else I’ve heard referred to as the Alphabet Mafia? The Law Enforcement agencies of the United States

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    • Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, FBI/CIA/ATF/DEA and all the rest. Alphabet Mafia refers to the three letter agencies.

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      • Triple_B@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, good luck taking it from them. It’s already negative, so maybe just leave it to the government so I can properly criticize said agencies and leave LGBTQIA+ peeps alone.

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    • Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let’s call it the Rainbow Mafia then

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      • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Love it. If you don’t pay us the protection money then we break into your house, rearrange your furniture, and paint your walls in colors that do not clash with typical decor.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Alphabet Mafia sounds like it could be a bit from Sesame Street where some wise guys teach you how to read.

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• Bloodwoodsrisen@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I tend to use “The Alphabet Mafia” when referring to everyone under the LGBT+ acronym

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• iMastari@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honest question:
  Is it bad that I would prefer to call them either Human, a person or by their name?

  IMO referring someone by their sexuality or their preferred gender is akin to calling someone by their skin color or ethnic origin. Eg. Referring to someone as "My friend" in comparison to calling them: "My Mexican friend" or "My Black friend" or "My LGBTQ+ friend".

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