Comment on Bungie appears to have plagarized an artist's work and style in their extraction shooter "Marathon" according to this Bluesky post

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This new game has essentially no relation besides name and logo to the old Marathon games. Sadly, because the old ones were the shit.

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  • Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s okay, ‘the shit’ is a weird phrase anyway. And as a Marathon trilogy connoisseur, you’re clearly alright.

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      • JordanZ@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This just reminds me of this guy…who also has one about the word ‘ass’.

        youtu.be/igh9iO5BxBo

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      • Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • doxxx@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m a little late to this party but this can be easily avoided by using the phrase “the shiz”. Just gotta train autocorrect to accept it.

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  • tuckerm@feddit.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Calling this a Marathon game makes no sense, and I don't just mean aesthetically. The business case can't possibly be there, either.

    Anyone who has a nostalgic attachment to Marathon (👋) won't be interested in this new game, and anyone interested in this new game probably doesn't care about the name "Marathon."

    On top of that, there's the fact that Marathon kind of looked like Halo. When Bungie made Halo, they were clearly taking after their own art style from their previous games. Which means Bungie could have announced that they're making a singleplayer first person shooter that kind of looks like Halo. Everyone would have lost their minds. Instead, they announced yet another live service game, and no one is interested.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well now I’m not buying it.

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its worse than that: this game is somehow CANON with the original Marathon

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    • Jesus_666@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My vent core feels retroactively unblasted by this revelation. You really can’t expect anything good from any of the major studios anymore these days.

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  • Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How dare you

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• audaxdreik@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s hilariously awful because, as a fan of the original Marathon trilogy, the aesthetic of the new game is the only thing that appealed to me; and it was stolen.

  I have no interest in an extraction shooter. You can make an extraction shooter if you want, but you gotta make something that players can get emotionally invested in first. Original Marathon players won’t recognize this and new players won’t care so what was the fucking point of any of this, I’m going crazy. This industry has lost all direction

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They did steal artwork, but the whole aesthetic wasn’t stolen… the stuff they stole is a very small part of the game (I’m pretty sure, haven’t and won’t play it). I’m in no way defending them, but saying the whole aesthetic was stolen just because they used some text and icons from someone istället just dumb.

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    • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Much of the aesthetic was clearly inspired by The Designers Republic

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Every game’s style is inspired by something else. For example, Sable has a great style, but it’s largely inspired by Moebius, and that’s OK, and actually encouraged.

        There is nothing in this world that is not inspired by previous experiences.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was hoping it was gonna be a clever, fun story shooter like the original. But it just sounds like a reskinned Helldivers with no connection to the original besides the name.

    Luckily classic Marathon is available on Steam for free.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      OK, criticism is fine, by reskined Helldivers? It’s nothing like Helldivers. It’s an extraction shooter, with a focus on PvP.

      I guess Helldivers is a shooter where you extract, but it isn’t an extraction shooter. Extraction shooters are like Escape from Tarkov, Gray Zone, and the upcoming ARC Raiders. They’re about entering a game with items, collecting loot, and leaving. If you die you lose everything you brought. Nothing like Helldivers.

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      • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That makes even less sense to me. Nothing in the original game is about collecting resources or leaving the ship

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  • Malix@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m just spitballing, but the ip owner needs to do something with the ip so they can keep it? IIRC similar things have been mentioned here and there when some long forgotten ip suddenly gets a new loweffort installment.

    So, could be that they were making the extraction shooty anyway, so they slapped Marathon on it “just to refresh the timer”? I dunno if that’s how it works, not a lawyer.

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    • Wrufieotnak@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think so, because If I remember correctly:

      When Bungie was bought by Sony, they specifically included in the contract that they get to make a Marathon game if Destiny 2 reaches certain goals. So they aimed for a marathon game for a long time and specifically included that in the negotiations. Beats me why they would do such a poor multiplayer take on the SINGLEPLAYER franchise that is fondly remembered by fans.

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      • Malix@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “something something monkey paw curls” - maybe the contract didn’t specifically mention it would be a game of their liking, and so sony dictated it has to be a online-pvp-shooty

        But then again, destiny was already an online-shooty so… dunno.

        Never played a Marathon game, but as they are free on steam (bundled with some source port with AFAIK modern controls), I need to gather my pals and play them.

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• Geetnerd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look at you with your fancy PowerPC model. We had to make do with a 68040 and we liked it!

    goes outside to yell at the clouds to get off of his lawn

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• pno2nr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah but that Marathon was innovative, looked good, and was fun to play. That would never work in this day and age. Also I think the only thing that same about the two is the name.

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• Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Legit, i only clicked this because i was “wait wtf? system 7 marathon??”

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