Comment on Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The amount of options isn’t the issue.
For most 25-40€ games I buy, i can get a great experience for the next 30-50 hours.
Indie games absolutely crush the statistics, where some sub-15€ roguelikes have such insane replayability, that i’ve clocked over a thousand hours into a couple. Not to mention how incredibly creative, unique, and story rich some of them are.
Meanwhile, what used to be 60€, and is now 80€+, is some “cinematic” 20fps on console slop, that you can barely get 5 hours of real gameplay out of. I don’t wanna sit there and watch a movie with an occasional A button press. Or even worse, play something like the Assassins Creed reboot, that had 500 hours of gameplay, 490 of which is just useless collectibles around the map.
It kills me the the Jedi games, TLoU2, GoW games, they’re fun but they’re what, max 30 hours to beat? And they’re trying to up the price to 80?
Red dead 2 deserves 80. Cyberpunk in its current state could deserve 80. Both are around 100-120 hour games and I’ve replayed them multiple times. 30 hour games by proportion deserve a quarter of the price.
Never will understand people equating monetary value with how long they spend time with a game. Quality /= quantity or else Ubisoft and gacha games would be the best games of all time.
Obviously quality of gameplay matters, but point is that you need to take into account hours of gameplay, not just treat the game as a single unit, since the amount of fun gameplay you get from a game isn’t some sort of fixed quantity per game – it colossally varies.
Brokkr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Would be interested to know what games you have >500 hours in. Especially if they aren’t multi-player online games.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Oxygen not Included
Caves of Qud
Not run through Steam, so no Steam stats (though available on Steam) but I’m sure that they’re way up there:
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Dwarf Fortress
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, though that’s going back a few years.
Some others with a fair bit of playtime:
Steel Division II (really primarily a multiplayer game, but I only play single-player)
Elite: Dangerous. Though I don’t remember how I accumulated that many hours. Wasn’t super-impressed with the game, and would have sworn that I’d have more time in X3 (though maybe that gets split across the DLC or something).
Stellaris
Noita
Nova Drift
Starfield
Rule the Waves 3
Carrier Command 2 (Primarily intended to be played multiplayer, but I play single-player)
Kerbal Space Program
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Lots of love for Starbound, that game is underrated af.
trinsec@piefed.social 1 day ago
RimWorld ...
Yermaw@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Minecraft, slay the spire, civilisation, atomicrops.
Balatro could have been a contender but I lost interest suddenly and unexpectedly.
Tetris spoiler
NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Stellaris, civ v, oxygen not included, city skylines, x4, workers and resources: soviet republic, kerbal space program.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 23 hours ago
To be fair, while paradox games like Stellaris or the crusader kings games you mentioned, certainly have a lot of replayability (I don’t really care much for CK myself but have over 1000 hours on both Stellaris and EU4), they’re not great examples for where cheaper games by smaller companies offer more than expensive ones from bigger ones. Partly because paradox is fairly sizable and well known these days, but mostly because those games are quite expensive, just split into numerous expansions that come out over time. One can opt out of getting them, sure, but they’re where a lot of the different options that bring the replayability come from.
NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
I’m right there with you. I absolutely hate Paradox’s DLC policy and I’m guessing they lose a ton of paying clients the moment they hit the store page and get a 200-500€ price tag for the full experience, or even over 100€ for just the best hits for a really old game. I know they have mouths to feed, but i really don’t like the way they do it and how they abuse their position of niche games nobody else makes. Nevertheless, even though you may choose not to purchase their expansions, you still have extremely healthy modding communities to carry you over.
Still, i wasn’t coming so much from the angle that it’s a smaller company providing better value than larger companies, rather showing to the OP that there are non multiplayer games that easily can provide over 500 hours of entertainment.
teft@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Baldur’s Gate 3, Cyberpunk, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Witcher 3, Fallout
Really any RPG you can easily get 1000 hours of play.
dom@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Factorio, stardew, civ vi are my top 3.
poleslav@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well I’m not them, but for me: KSP1: 1800.8 hours. Current cost $40 = $0.02 an hour DCS: 1294.7 hours. Money spent eh $300 = $0.23 an hour Witcher 3: 1131.5 hours. Current cost: $40 = $0.03 an hour. Civ vi: 589.9 hours. Current cost: $60 = $0.10 an hour Stardew valley: 579.3 hours. current cost $15 = $0.026 an hour Fall out new Vegas: 543.6 hours. Current cost: $10 = $0.0018 an hour
Now if we add in the $2000 worth of peripherals I have to play dcs it’s cost balloons quite a bit but, it’s not terribly difficult to get high playtimes in cheap games. I would also say the cost per hour for me is double or triple what it actually is, as these are the current prices, and besides dcs I buy everything only on sale lol.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
My electricity costs to run the game are higher than the cost of the game itself at that point.
echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Factorio, eu4, stellaris, satisfactory, slay the spire, etc
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
For indie and cheaper stuff specifically? The Binding of Isaac is over 1k hours between my two copies. Rimworld, Factorio, and Terraria are all close to 500h as well. If Minecraft counts as one for you, this is an outlier with roughly 4k hours since 2011.
Otherwise, I am quite into MMOs and story-rich singleplayer RPGs, so there’s a handful of them with well over several thousands of hours played too.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
If you like Terraria, have you tried Starbound?
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes. I didn’t like it nearly as much, if at all. I’ve heard mods make that game infinitely more enjoyable though, so maybe i’ll try it again some day
DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 1 day ago
FTL for me
mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 day ago
Peglin for me. Cheaper world games I have an insane amount of hours in.
icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 1 day ago
XIV, but I never engage with other players aside from solo queue for dungeons etc
msage@programming.dev 1 day ago
Terraria is the easiest one.
I wish I had more time to play other single player time sinks like Dwarf Fortress, or even BeamNG.drive.