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Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Is nobody concerned that illegal experiments on babies only gets you 3 years?
Maybe they were Uyghurs so it was classified as “property damage” in Chinese law.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 4 weeks ago
Hong kongs a dictatorship? You know, the place this doctor was working?
Well observed, its been an apartheid state since its inception as a colony to the UK.
LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
Everyone who opposes dictatorships is a Nazi or a liberal, who are also Nazis.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Nazis, by definition, do not oppose dictatorships. Not sure where you got that idea, but it certainly wasn’t a level-headed assessment of history.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
The guy you’re responding to is a liberal doing a piss poor parody of a ML.
You can’t do a good parody if you get angry before the punchline, or don’t understand the thing you’re parodying in the first place.
LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
I read it in Das Kapital, by Joseph Stalin. Don’t you liberal anarkiddies read theory?
Objection@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
It’s literal misinformation, so it probably should be removed, yes.
Probius@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Why did you self censor by saying “dot”?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I wrote that on my phone’s touch keyboard, and I didn’t want to use
\.to escape the dot character to avoid autohotlinking.
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I’ve blocked that instance, but if they need more material to ban me I have it.
Aux@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Who cares about a tankie instance?
Objection@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Dang, you can really just pull shit straight out of your ass and people will believe it.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
lemmy dot ml
Objection@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Yes, .ml users do indeed tend to be more concerned with fact-checking and saying things that are actually true, thank you for pointing that out.
Tope@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Asking out of curiosity what does that “ml” mean?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Supposed to mean “machine-learning”, but the developers of Lemmy (whose instance it is) are using it to mean “Marxism-Leninism”, which is a misnomer invented by Stalin. While ml has some non-tankie leftists, that instance is infamous because of them.
NIB@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Marxism leninism, it’s a political ideology, subset of communism. Basically the communists that love USSR, China, Cuba, etc. They love running propaganda about how these authoritarian governments did nothing wrong and how all criticism of them is just negative propaganda by the West.
Jhex@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The devil is in the details…
You are likely thinking (as I am) that he implanted robotic arms on babies but he may have just rubbed sage oil on them for all we know
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He used CRISPR to make 3 babies immune to HIV.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, he inserted a gene that is associated with resistance to HIV, but is also associated with increased risk of some cancers. He did this without informed consent, he did this without running it by an ethics board, he did this without knowing whether it would work or not.
Let’s stop pretending that he’s a good guy that just magically made HIV immune babies.
T156@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
We also don’t know if it was just that gene that was altered, or if there are other effects. Modern gene editing isn’t so precise that we can edit just the gene we want. A lot of genes with similar sequences as the target can also be affected.
It’s basically like firing a shotgun at the house they live in. You might hit the one you want, but you may also hit other unrelated people in the process.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Diabolical
Jhex@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Thanks for the info
definitely on the evil side considering he probably planed to infect them to test his theories
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nope, he had no plans to infect them. The babies had parents who were HIV-positive.
easily3667@lemmus.org 4 weeks ago
Wow you are jumping to a lot of stupid ass conclusions for someone who won’t google a name.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Did not have baby zombie apocalypse on my Bingo card, but thera ya go
Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Depends how successful the experiment is (and probably on what the goal is as well).
If he’d been testing the effects of grass vs grain feed on human fat marbling, I’d imagine the sentence would have been a little more severe
jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
“Illegal experiments on babies” is a user-provided note, and is not really an accurate label. For one thing, no experiments were done on babies.
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The report confirmed that He had recruited eight couples to participate in his experiment, resulting in two pregnancies, one of which gave birth to the gene- edited twin girls in November 2018. The babies are now under medical supervision. The report further said He had made forged ethical review papers in order to enlist volunteers for the procedure, and had raised his Own funds deliberately evading oversight, and organized a team that included some overseas members to carry out the illegal project.
I guess it’s right that there was no experiment in babies, the babies were the experiments themselves.
It would have taken much less time to read about the topic than to make that nonsense response.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
What do you mean? What did I get wrong?
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
And China executed a shitload of people for political dissent…
nope@jlai.lu 4 weeks ago
And in what context medical experiments should be allowed on babies ?
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Yet we still have default circumcisions in the US, no?
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
A lot of contexts? Like the development depending on formula vs mother’s milk? Experimenting doesn’t need to mean vivisection or injecting unregulated drugs, but if you need to do the experiments illegally, I’m not sure it was something “safe”
easily3667@lemmus.org 4 weeks ago
Not babies, embyros
comfy@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Jiankui_affair
Laws were changed after this incident:
So, in case you actually meant that weird ignorant remark you made about Uyghurs, the answer is no and no.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Lemmitors downvoting you because actually learning about the case conflicts with their “cHiNa BaD” circlejerk.
ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 4 weeks ago
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Oh shit someone tell the ~~ fascist scum~~ liberal toads that its actually blue on blue, this guy was working for a honky kong universty!!!
drislands@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Thanks for the information – good to know. I assume that like American law, he couldn’t be punished for something that wasn’t illegal when he did it?
Regarding the Uyghur comment the other guy made, definitely a bit tasteless but I don’t think it’s that ignorant given the genocide China perpetrated against them.
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What he did was illegal. Even without specific laws about genetic modification or cloning, he did perform experiments with babies without the necessity approvals from ethics and safety, without informed consent from the parents and likely misusing funds allocated to other research.
3 years is still to short.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
I don’t think CCP cares about the principle of no ex post facto punishments.
ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 4 weeks ago
Source: My racism
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
It was a joke… You don’t get to jail for experimenting with slaves in China.