Comment on nets

Obelix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Cotton bud sticks 
Cutlery, plates, straws and stirrers 
Balloons and sticks for balloons 
Food containers 
Cups for beverages 
Beverage containers 
Cigarette butts 
Plastic bags 
Packets and wrappers 
Wet wipes and sanitary items 

• Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  People want to pretend just the things that are convenient to them are an issue. They say government and companies need to take action, then complain about actions taken. It’s really wild to see.

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  • Azteh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not throwing my garbage in the wild makes me have no idea how often straws end up in the ocean, so it seemed like a wild thing to go after.

    Any idea if it’s people dumping all this stuff in the wild or if it’s because we throw it out in our bins that it somehow gets to the ocean?

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      a lot of single-use items come from fast food places, which people will eat in their cars and then just throw out the window as they drive along.

      it’s a fucking sad practice but it’s really hard to get people to stop doing it, so the next best option is just to make sure as much as possible of the things you get from fast food joints will dissolve in a rain shower.

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    • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Stuff falls out of garbage trucks, trash cans get tipped over, stuff gets blown out of the bed of a dumptruck at the landfill, landfills erode and take trash with them. Trashcans aren’t just magic portals that take trash into the nightosphere

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s called environmental dumping. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_dumping

      First world countries ship waste to third world countries where dumping is not illegal (or at least not enforced).

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVnMBGXVVUI

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• Jtotheb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is a list of end-consumer items put together by a government body beholden to fishing and other industries. And it’s not even about pollution levels, it’s specifically about beach pollution. Plastic lids on cartons of heavy cream are “also a problem” if we focus only on reducing plastic waste in the kitchen, but implying it’s even relevant compared to industrial plastic waste is disingenuous

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  • Obelix@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why shouldn’t it be relevant? The waste is out there, is being found on our beaches and the industrial plastic waste is not swept up as often? So why would a regulation to prevent the most common plastic-items on our beaches from being there be bad?

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    • Jtotheb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s not bad, and I didn’t claim it to be bad. It’s not relevant in the same way Dr Thunder and Pibb Xtra aren’t leading to a soft drink crisis in the USA—they’re a small part of a much bigger problem.

      To carry on with this dumbass analogy, it would be misleading to argue for a ban on off-brand sodas while continuing to mass produce Sprite, Pepsi, and Diet Coke, and it lets big businesses off the hook for their destruction. Same with letting industries shovel untold plastic waste into the oceans behind our backs while making more visible efforts to ban much smaller amounts back on land.

      Also, we’re not just worried about plastic because it ends up on beaches. That is, again, missing the bigger picture. It’s also missing why those items in particular end up on beaches, which is because of local littering.

      If you ban plastic straws from European beaches and say job well done, the planet will never notice.

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      • Obelix@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah, but it’s a quick win. Ban some single-use plastics and prevent it from getting into the oceans because it doesn’t exist. Yeah, you have to do something about the fishing nets, but there is no reason to not take those quick-wins

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• Jajcus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Single use plastic items laying on the beach is what bothers people the most, but this doesn’t mean it is the biggest problems. There is much more plastic in the oceans that we do not see.

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• bstix@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hmm. Perhaps the beaches shouldn’t be the prioritized focus for developing alternatives to plastic.

  If it’s on the beach, it can be picked up. Today, tomorrow or eventually.

  I think the plastic that can’t be as easily be collected ought to be replaced by alternatives first.

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  • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If it’s on the beach it’s been washed up there. The stuff that’s washing up can be collected, sure, but that represents a small percentage of the overall amount that there is.

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    • bstix@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Excellent point.

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  • Obelix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If it gets swept up on the shore, it’s in the ocean. So it totally makes sense to prevent it from being there.

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• ComradeMiao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Cotton bud stick???

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  • Obelix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s kind of crazy - those plastic Q-tips are only better if you want to totally wreck your ears and every doctor is warning against that. For every legitimate use, those paper variants work perfectly well

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    • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      how can a paper a tip grease a bearing?

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      • nahostdeutschland@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Why would you grease a bearing with a q-tip? Use a proper tool for that!

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  • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think Americans call the q tips

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah but a q-tips here are paper / cotton

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      • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Over here cotton buds used to usually have plastic sticks. They’ve all changed to paper because of this EU thing though.

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Not anymore, they switched to plastic.

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  • thesystemisdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unbranded Q-Tip

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• TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Not saying they are not but from what you posted it could still be 99.9% nets, what is in the article is just a list of the most common found items in breaches.

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• Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  straws

  I probably use a straw a single time each year, and I don’t see people using straws much either, why is this a huge problem again?

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  • Obelix@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And if you go out and order a drink, you might get 3 or 4 straws. Yes, it’s stupid. Yes, it doesn’t make sense. But it happens and people throw their to-go drinks into the environment after they finished them

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    • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And if you go out and order a drink, you might get 3 or 4 straws.

      I have never seen that happening. Where do you live? Here in Poland you get maximum 1 straw if any, lol.

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