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• unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Oh, nicotine is way worse. It may not harm your health directly, but addictiveness is exponentially worse.

  Wikipedia: Dependence and Withdrawal: Moderately physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms may occur upon abstinence, with greater than 100 mg caffeine per day, although these symptoms last no longer than a day

  Wikipedia: Nicotine withdrawal Symptoms are usually strongest for the first few days and then dissipate over 2–4 weeks (…) In a minority of smokers, cravings may persist for years.

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  • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I smoked cigarettes for four years, then quit for a decade. I was incredibly stressed out and had 2-3 cigarettes for a couple days in a row and now I’m addicted again. I hope I will be able to quit soon, I just have to stop working where I am first, because I need the five minute breaks and don’t get them otherwise.

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    • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Is switching to vaping an option? You’d still be getting the nicotine, but not the smoke/tar

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      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It is, but I feel like the additional harm to myself is worth not getting a vape with all of the environmental drawbacks to the casing and battery, especially because I really think it’ll only be another few weeks. I already have a new job lined up, and I won’t be able to smoke during that really at all.

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  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    As a long time daily coffee drinker, that is definitely not accurate about caffeine withdrawal. Every time I try to quit caffeine I go through multiple weeks of depression and physical weakness symptoms.

    And as a former smoker, nicotine is still significantly worse. Never touch the stuff, not even once. For a lot of people, there just is no going back from it. It claims you.

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  • piconaut@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’ve smoked cigars occasionally, maybe as many as 2-3 per week for 2 weeks in a row and then just stopped with no signs of addiction. Nicotine is often described as one of the most addictive drugs and I sometimes wonder if I just never took enough to get addicted in the first place or my experience is a result of lower than average susceptibility to nicotine addiction.

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    • Draces@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Probably both. They’re not mutually exclusive

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• muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’ve heard that but how else is one supposed to get nicotine in the system? Chewing gum? Patches? Vapes? Is it soluble in a substance that’s safe to consume?

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  • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Nicotine is water soluble. You can take a wet tobacco leaf off the plant and it’ll soak into your skin and get you a bit buzzed (or in my case when I discovered this mid harvest if you touch enough it’ll get you massively high and nauseous). Imo one of the best ways to get some in relative safety is grow your own, they’re really easy, and just put a leaf under your tongue for a bit then spit it out

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    • muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Its highly highly illegal to grow it in my country unfortunately.

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      • MutilationWave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Don’t let laws stop you from doing harmless shit.

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    • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Part of the problem with using tobacco this way (basically diy dip) is that tobacco leaves themselves contain carcinogenic nitrates that will still have long term health impacts. If you’re going to consume nicotine, it’s best that your source is as close to chemically pure as you can get. Synthetic nicotine is by and large the safest option outside of simply not consuming nicotine in any form. It’s still incredibly addictive and cardiotoxic

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    • graycube@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      After that article the other day about caffeine in hand lotion, I’m now surprised they don’t put nicotine in hand lotion.

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  • 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    If u aren’t already addicted, don’t even bother. Nicotine is fucking insane

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    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Alcohol is worse then nicotine. Although my life is shit and I have so many reasons to drink.

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    • muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Too late unfortunately

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      • 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Alright then. Hopefully you aren’t like me though - constantly vaping 20mg nic salt throughout the day (I get cravings after like 10 minutes)

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  • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Nicotine in comparable or larger doses from non-toxic or much less toxic sources is arbitrarily limited for stupid reasons.

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    • muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Profits of tobacco companies isn’t a stupid reason when ur a lobbyist for the tobacco companies

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It interacts with nicotinic receptors in your stomach, and you’ll have the liver first past effect after that. Eating it is a bad idea.

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  • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I smoked for pretty much my whole life. Quit with varying degrees of success many many times. I switched to nicotine pouches 2 months ago, and it’s been fairly great at reducing the damage of cigarettes while not dealing with the actual addiction.

    Still need to watch out for gum recession, so it’s not exactly 100% healthy, but smoking causes gum recession anyway and I’m not destroying my lungs anymore, so pretty solid for harm reduction.

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    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Still need to watch out for gum recession

      Boof it

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• Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I mean, we are talking about a crowd where steroid abuse is super common. Taking some nicotine to get a pump isn’t really anywhere near being outside the realm of an unreasonable health risk, to a large portion of this demographic.

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