He started labelling random shit as masculine/feminine.
FYI: This is totally normal in France.
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ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Had a ex-friend who went real hard last year about why his masculinity has been challenged. Went deep into the manosphere language. He was extra annoying. Every convo was about how he, a white man in America, was being repressed. He started labelling random shit as masculine/feminine. Got sick this and stopped inviting him.
A few months later, I learned the divorce was finalized and he’s been sending me invites to hang with him in his bachelor pad. Nah dog you suck now.
riskable@programming.dev 1 week ago
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Any romance language country, really
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 week ago
TIL Klingon is a romance language
hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Germany woke af by having a gender-neutral pronoun already
FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 1 week ago
What does that have to do with a situation that’s not in France?
MBM@lemmings.world 1 week ago
^It’s^ ^a^ ^joke^ ^about^ ^le^ ^vs^ ^la^
FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 1 week ago
I’m whooshing pretty hard because I still don’t understand what the joke is, but I’ll just assume that’s on me :)
Thanks for trying to help me understand!
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
had ex-friend
B-b-but ToLeRaNcE!!!
Similar situation here (there is more than ine situation, ofc), but wifey’s aling for the ride too, and not in a trad wife way (they’re late 60s in age). Left them out of the pals’ xmas dinner because it’s become unbearable for everyone else.
It’s no fun losing decades-long relationships over whatever “this” is that’s happening.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
What’s weird about this broader “conversation” on masculinity is I feel more masculine than ever, despite not giving a flying fuck about any of this.
I never really struggled with it except as a teen, but the older I get the less I care.
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I still say we made a mistake with communicating to men about feminism. We kind of left people who are terrible like Andrew Tate to dominate the conversation when people shut down men’s rights groups as de facto misogynistic, and now here we are.
hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What’s weird about this broader “conversation” on masculinity is I feel more masculine than ever<
Same. The more I read stupid quotes from the Tates and Musk’s of the world, the more I feel like I’m doing something right with how I’m living my life, raising my kiddo, and engaging with my community.
Between that and a wider understanding/acceptance of neurodivergence, I’m feeling pretty comfortable in my own skin for the first time in a long time. And I’m ready to fight for women, minorities, and the LGBTQ+ communities to feel the same way.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 1 week ago
Dudes getting divorced and then hating women are really telling on themselves.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
yeah and i bet that shit was the reason for the divorce. i got a friend who lost her husband down the right wing rabbithole and now she’s processing the grief of losing someone she loved to something so goddamn stupid
coyootje@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This could have been me. For the longest time I was watching right wing YT channels without really realizing it because they were hiding their messaging well under legitimate critique of the movies and shows I was no longer enjoying. My girlfriend and I got into multiple arguments over this and I could tell that this was something we’d never agree on, which makes sense of course. Eventually I managed to pull myself out by unsubscribing from these channels ocne the messaging became a lot more clear (around 2021, you can probably guess why) and since then things have been much better between us and in general.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I have found the subtle messaging in tutorials for software. They’re good at hiding it.
coyootje@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yeah it’s honestly insane how much of it there is. Even channels that appear to be completely innocent at first can suddenly start veering in this direction. I remember watching someone like CinnamonToastKen when I was younger and it always used to be very generic fun for everyone content. But the last few years I started catching on to him saying more and more right leaning, conspiracy theory type stuff.
He made comments about the US (where he no longer even lives) keeps giving money to Ukraine instead of fixing their own problems, the “stolen election” and of course about Trump winning again. I really don’t understand why you have to make statements like that, you (on average) alienate about half of your audience by saying stuff like that. But oh well, a quick unsub and moving on.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
i’m proud of you for waking up
Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
I’m proud of you for realizing something was off and correcting course. I know how easy it is to get sucked into that garbo. I got sucked in myself when I was a young teen. I genuinely don’t remember how I pulled myself out of it, but I’m glad I did because I’m positive my life would be miserable if I hadn’t.
TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Maybe a weird thing to ask, but could you provide an example video/channel? I find these kinds of things very fascinating.
coyootje@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Like I said in another comment, Cinnamontoastken is one of them. Other ones (with varied levels of “hiding their messaging”) would be:
I’m sure there’s others but those were the ones I remember the most.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It’s also very likely the divorce was the reason for the behavior. Getting lost in the sauce of that nonsense is a tragic but not unreasonable reaction to the trauma of divorce, or just being hurt by a woman. That ideology and the people who make money from it prey on weak, lost men for a reason. Thats what its designed to do.
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You could be mixing up correlation and causation. The divorce could have happened for any number of reasons and the ensuing loneliness and alienation could have been what led the husband to seek validation in manosphere bullshit
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
you may be right in this specific case. when i said “i bet” i was taking a gamble. i based my gamble based on the sequencing of events i watched my friend go through. i’m sure you’re right that it’s played out the opposite direction, and that even for my friend her husband becoming authoritarian leadind to their divorce made her husband even more entrenched in that mindset.
parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I bet that is really fucked up because you might spend a long, long time trying to convince yourself that he would change back or just be less of an asshole. That’s a special sort of grief where they are still living but you’re mourning who they used to be.