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ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
No and not for the reason you’d expect:
OnlyFans requires you to do social media and prove that your social media accounts are yours, and of course they require you to hand over your real identity with your real ID card or passport and a selfie.
This is beyond dystopian. You have to be suicidal from a privacy standpoint to do OnlyFans.
Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.
Pornhub had to remove all unverified videos (which was most of their videos) and now anyone who uploads must follow similar rules that OnlyFans has. Pornhub posted an announcement saying they reported 118 instances of child abuse materials while Facebook reported 84,000,000 but that somehow they’re the ones being threatened to be shutdown unless they implement more rules.
Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.
Only partially.
They don’t legally have to require you to do social media. All they’re legally required to do is to verify that you’re a consenting adult. With that respect, I get that they require a form of ID and a photo.
But the social media stuff is something they pretend to require to add an extra layer of legitimacy to your account, and make extra-sure you’re not a fraud. It’s of course complete bullshit. They only do this to collect data.
And don’t think for a second you can open an empty Facebook account and tell them “Here’s my social media account”: they want an old account with lots of real activity. And only certain types social media accounts are accepted. In fact, they’re very heavily biased towards you having a Facebook account, and it’s a lot more difficult to validate your OnlyFans account with anything other than a Facebook account.
They’re in cahoots with Facebook on the social media verification scam. I believe a good portion of their revenue stream is deanonymizing sex workers and selling that data.
What about Fansly?
You’re right!
I think it has to do with women being trafficked into cam service.
If I remember correctly the pressure came from credit card companies and not any government.
They need all that to be able to give you your money.
It’s how you get paid.
They don’t need to know under which name I access Facebook to pay me.
It’s not like you’re using your personal social accounts for this stuff.
You’re not going to want your friends and family anywhere near it.
They want to know your “public” social accounts. The ones that are part of your “Brand”, that would drive your “Business”. That’s what matters.
If you’re worried about privacy on those accounts, you’re doing it all wrong.
You have to. Facebook doesn’t allow you to have multiple accounts. If they suspect otherwise (even if they’re wrong), they’ll just delete your account
It’s to keep kids off the website and even with all that, there’s already been cases. I think they dont do enough tbh.
Fortunately some places have zero knowledge proofs where you can prove you’re of age without giving your identity
Doesn’t that just hand the privacy issue over to another company?
If by company you mean the government, yes. But they already have your info by necessity
I’d sell a lot more than that for riches.
This guy raging that a media/porn publishing company verifies it’s models 🤣
I mean in the history of porn nobody, and I mean nobody has ever been abused.
You’ve probably provided ID at every job you’ve ever had. This is to establish legal residency and that you are of working age. I know OF is not a 9 to 5 job but money is exchanged and I don’t see why this is so dystopian, especially given the extra sensitivity around age.
I have no issue with providing ID. I take issue with them requiring me to provide social media credentials. If you don’t do social media - and especially if you don’t do Facebook in particular - no OnlyFans for you.
Do you find this normal?
I don’t.
Okay you actually spent more words on ID and real identity than socials so that did seem to be an objection.
Privacy is the concern you cited. If so, why would you be worried about Facebook and not be worried about real ID?
I’m just trying to understand this clearly - setting aside hyperbole words like dystopian and questions about what I find normal.
Well, I’m not a fan of any for-profit asking for my ID. But this is an outfit for sex workers and I’m a reasonable man, so I understand the legal need for them to ask me to provide strong proof of my identity, simply to comply with the law.
But why should they go any further than what the law requires them to do?
There are very valid reasons to have a private Facebook and keep it totally separate from your OnlyFans gig. You may have had your Facebook account for years or decades, you interact with your friends and family with it, you know your employers - or your next employer’s headhunter - will check it out. It needs to be squeaky clean and “normal”.
And on the side, you’re Mistress Jeanne queen of the dominatrix on OnlyFans: you absolutely DON’T want anybody to know you’re Mistress Jeanne for obvious reasons.
OnlyFans destroys this separation. They know who you are (by law) and they force you to tell them who you present yourself as on Facebook - in case you didn’t use quite the same name, which is very common with trans people for example - and they obviously know who you are and what you do on their platform.
Why do you think they require you to disclose your social media avatars? To aggregate the information and sell it of course. It’s completely obvious they’re building a database of fully deanonymized sex workers, and that has to be worth a pretty penny on the nauseating data broker market.
If you don’t care about privacy, you use your real name everywhere or you don’t care that Big Data knows everything about you, including your not-so-savory activities, this is of no concern to you. But most people do stuff they want to keep secret, or hidden, or at least compartmentalized away from their ordinary life and OnlyFan’s requirements are all shades of terrible for that basic right to privacy.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 week ago
That’s actually fucking ridiculous. But I guess if you’re willing to put your asshole and face together on the Internet, you’re probably not to concerned about these extra steps.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
You miss the point.
What if you want to have a Facebook with the name “Joe Smith” and an OnlyFans with the name “Queen Georgina”? Even if your OnlyFans shows your face - which isn’t a requirement by the way - it’s not your real name. And you may not want to put your face or your real name on your Facebook at all, and keep the two completely separate.
OnlyFans basically destroy the separation between your accounts and links both with your real identity, your real government-issued ID number or SSN. And they collaborate very closely with Facebook in case you didn’t know. I know that because I asked them.
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 1 week ago
“As for asshole pictures, as far as I know, asshole recognition technology isn’t as developed as facial recognition technology yet.”
Fecal recognition technology.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It may save lives one day.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 week ago
What point do you think that I am missing? I was making a half-joke saying that people on Onlyfans probably aren’t super into privacy measures.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 week ago
wait really? put me back in the fuck no camp then
jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 week ago
Facebook doesn’t allow you to not show your face
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 week ago
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