ViceroTempus
@ViceroTempus@lemmy.world
- Comment on Well would you look at that... 10 hours ago:
I do that all the time lol. Sometimes you just stop at a comment, do your reply, only to find out someone else beat you to it lol.
- Comment on Well would you look at that... 10 hours ago:
So two things that makes this believable for me. One you grew into an adult so you weren’t as naturally aware of the younger generation’s lexicon.
And also you lived closer to the inception of the word. Its very possible that “Retard” met the specificity requirement in your time for a slur, and meant a very particular caricature in that time. Which, is what I think is need for a word to be slur. It needs two things Hate, and specificity towards a particular subset of humans. Think about all the other slurs, they very specific aspect to them when you think of the word, to the point you can’t mistake it for another subset of humans. Which is my problem with Retard being a slur, even in the medical diagnoses it was an umbrella term. It wasn’t like “Downs” that was bandied about in my childhood, and IMO is the real slur of my time for this subject.
So I think “Retard” may have just became generalized by the time it my generations lexicon, because I knew the definition as “Incredibly Stupid” before I had ever met a mentally disabled person. And when I had, trust me, I would have gotten my ass beat by my peers if I had even uttered “stupid” in there direction. Which, IMO, would have been the right call. Besides I would never have insulted Ronnie like that, kid was decent and kind.
Btw, this has been interesting to me, and I appreciate this discussion even though there are those that disagree. I hope you know I don’t have any ill-will towards you, and very much enjoyed this.
- Comment on Well would you look at that... 20 hours ago:
Lmao, sorry, sorry. I just wasn’t expecting to get told, wrongly, about history I lived through. Retard didn’t fall out of favor until the 2010’s, and gay as an insult only started wearing off towards the late 00’s early 10’s which is why you can still see it in media from the time.
Not sure how old you are, but I found it very funny.
- Comment on Well would you look at that... 23 hours ago:
Moron and Idiot were the original correlations. People adopted those words as insults and the medical community adopted new words, and then those words got used as insults, and then the medical community adopted new words…
And on and on and on. Moron equates you to someone with diminished capacity like someone with down syndrome, to use your example. So does Idiot, and Imbecile. As again they were medical terms turned into insults lol.
So like by all means hate Retarded as word, but have some consistency.
- Comment on Well would you look at that... 23 hours ago:
I do understand the perspective, I just feel like going after “Retarded” as a slur is dumb on multiple levels. One, it diminishes actual slurs and what they represent. Two(which I’ve already covered) has actual uses outside of just being an insult. Three the devolution of our language due to censorship is an issue as a whole and this bothers me(Grape, PDFile come to mind as well). Four, its inconsistent with the other words of the same tier and meaning. And Fifth, it only became designated as a “slur” relatively recently which wraps back around to point one.
And last but not a viable point, there just isn’t a word that is as succinct as “retarded” for something so incredulously dumb that it defies belief, in my opinion.
With that all said, I hope you understand I wasn’t coming after you personally, you just triggered something that’s been bothering me. Again, sorry you got the brunt of that rant. Even that last part wasn’t for you. Please have a lovely day.
- Comment on Well would you look at that... 1 day ago:
Do you complain about the two I-Slurs, the M-slurs, as well?
I’m just going to say. Retarded has the most right to exist out of all the words that have been malformed from medical diagnoses that mean “has diminished capacity”.
It has an actual function outside of being used as an insult, unlike Moron, Imbecile, and Idiot. And should not be censored or have people in favor of its censorship as we’ve already seen the nanny state corporations are happy to implement.
If you’re wondering why I say this it’s because of words like “Fire Retardent” Or saying something slows things down is to retard it(older usage I know, but it does pop up from time to time in technical documents for things). There are more uses, but admittedly I’m tired today and don’t have it in me to dredge up more examples.
And yeah sorry that you personally are getting the brunt of this rant, but I’m so tired of censorship on words in general, but especially on words that have uses outside of the insult. I also hate how inconsistent people are with it.
It’s a fucking word. It’s a fucking word that means the same as stupid, idiot, moron, imbecile, it just hits harder for most. It’s not a real slur, imo. And if you’re using it as a slur, that’s on you and you’re a fucking moron for it.
- Comment on insults 1 week ago:
Sad this post missed the most devastating one of all: “You’re basic”.
- Comment on Something something .. trends.. 2 weeks ago:
You know what, fuck it, I’m pretty desperate for good news. I see you Golden Potato, I see you…
- Comment on Paris, France 3 weeks ago:
One of is certainly terminally online, but it’s not me. Take your projection and fuck off. I’ve already lost family members to the Concentration Camps, so kindly take your privilege elsewhere and try being useful for once.
- Comment on Paris, France 3 weeks ago:
I have to agree. The people I’ve organized with are also waiting to see how mid terms shake out.
- Comment on Paris, France 3 weeks ago:
God I hate how much news is just not shown here in the U.S… This and the recent No King protests are really only found in alternative places. I keep trying to explaining that marching isn’t enough, that it doesn’t generate enough fear/anxiety to make them want to change.
That previous “peaceful” protests like MLK’s had targeted strategies that disrupted life on purpose. And still had Malcolm X and the Black Panthers as the muscle of the movement.
We’re just not doing enough, and allies that are willing are just too far apart distance wise to properly coordinate without getting caught. And random acts of violence can be useful, but only if they are actually shocking enough and have follow up. Luigi enacted a small amount of change for a short amount of time. Companies were denying less for a solid year afterwards. The problem is that there wasn’t enough follow up. The violence wasn’t coordinated enough, or organized with a wider group so they could continue to lay on the fear.
We’re just too passive, too domesticated, and lack the will to properly organize. The only good news is Trump is making these points more salient as time goes on. Especially with his talk of interference, and using the national guard for voter intimidation. I believe the mid terms will be a breakpoint for many depending on how they go. Or I hope it will anyway, as nothing else has been enough so far.
- Comment on The American Dream, minus 60% 2 months ago:
Targets.
- Comment on currently busy 😅 2 months ago:
Ask them if they want to play battle shits?
- Comment on 92% of American adults aren’t going to a doctor because they cannot afford it. The health insurance industry must be dissolved & all of its executives criminally prosecuted for murder, conspiracy, an… 2 months ago:
I’m well aware. Still doesn’t change the fact that it was a self-inflicted wound, and that they took out a public option when they didn’t need to.
- Comment on 92% of American adults aren’t going to a doctor because they cannot afford it. The health insurance industry must be dissolved & all of its executives criminally prosecuted for murder, conspiracy, an… 2 months ago:
Lol, they had a super majority at the time. They never needed the Republican votes.
- Comment on 92% of American adults aren’t going to a doctor because they cannot afford it. The health insurance industry must be dissolved & all of its executives criminally prosecuted for murder, conspiracy, an… 2 months ago:
We nearly had a public option in the Affordable Care Act, but then Democrats watered down their proposal before it ever went to up for an actual vote thanks to Lieberman. Which of course ended up making it a huge boon to the insurance companies, resulting in our current state of affairs.
- Comment on [deleted] 3 months ago:
LMAO, yeah okay. Your words would have a lot more weight if they hadn’t hidden a fucking DDOS in their “goodbye”. Truly based, lol. Enjoy the attention you’re going to get with this post, that you obviously crave, Patrick.
- Comment on I made the Tesseract shitlist! 3 months ago:
To be fair. At least Macniel is only doing it for themselves, and being upfront about it. Which is the exact opposite of the Tesseract dev’s MO. If they want to block people for this, I say the more power to them. That’s what the function is for, and they aren’t forcing their choices on anyone else by doing so.
With that said, they can block me too. Because I ended up on the regex list and am damn proud of it :p. And on a related note, I hope I live long enough to see Elon Musk lynched.
- Comment on Teserract may be opensource, but adding myself would feel disingenuous 3 months ago:
Proud to say I made the list. Trans rights are human rights, and Billionaires need to be put to death :D. Have a good one, guys.
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
First I knock on doors for the candidates I believe in, I’m probably one of the most participatory voters in my local area. I do the calls, I join in protests where I can, and am an active member of my community. If I wasn’t I certainly wouldn’t be pissed about the whole fucking thing. FFS, I’ve quite literally helped organize my neighborhood in case ICE shows up.
I get that you don’t like losing, so you imagine arguments you can fight against, but don’t you find it a bit pathetic you need to do that? Stick to what I said, not why imaginary me said in your head, please. Don’t assume shit about my life you haven’t even bothered asking me about, it just pisses me off, and makes you look like an idiot.
- Comment on Im a weekly showerer 5 months ago:
You know, that might be fair. It’s never been a problem for me, but I do know my wife’s skin doesn’t when she showers too much. (Something she brought up, when I was making jokes about how Lemmings hate showers due to the downvotes).
Guess I just repeated what worked for me as a fact without really thinking it through, my bad lol. I appreciate you sourcing your argument, though. +1.
- Comment on Im a weekly showerer 5 months ago:
You should shower twice a day at least. Once in the morning to wash of the stink of the night, and before bed to wash off the stink of the day.
It’s really not a binary choice.
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
That not everybody registers democrat for one reason or another, and are left out of the democratic process. Which people like you choose to ignore because it makes your arguments less sound.
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
And then we lost…
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
I didn’t say there wasn’t a primary. I asked who did you vote for President in said primary?
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
And then of course in 2020 they colluded behind the scenes to have all the candidates drop out except Biden, Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren(Left in to split the progressive vote).
But you know these blue maga types, they prefer to leave reality off the table so they can pretend this is a functioning democracy.
And in 2024…Oh right… No choice to be had.
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
I asked this question elsewhere, but who did you vote for President in the Democratic Party Primaries in 2024?
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
And yet you can’t recall, who voted for the Presidential Candidate in the Democratic Party Primaries…
You know I think you’ll find that all the people who participated in said primaries also can’t recall who they voted for when it came to the Presidential Candidate in said primaries…
- Comment on American workers are tired of waiting. 5 months ago:
Yeah, sorry I missed the primaries in 2024, who did you vote for the presidential candidate in said primary?
- Comment on Trump audibly loses control of his bowels during a press conference - via Forbes Breaking News 9 months ago:
Pretty sure they already are.