I want to turn it off entirely, but the “smart” hitboxes for the digital keyboard are also so imprecise that I rely on autocorrect to accommodate my fat fingers.
They also tend to believe compound words don’t exist.
My phone's dictionary thinks the word "expanse" only exists as a show title
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RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 11 months ago
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
“Autocorrect,” for instance.
I’m using the Samsung one. I’ve tried a couple FOSS keyboards, but I just can’t get used to them. They always make it super hard to find the special characters or non-English letters like ñ, which is a PITA since half my family speaks Spanish.
dingus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I can’t stand the Samsung one because it doesn’t let me swear. I’m an adult, damnit. I want to be able to say what I want without my phone policing me like a child. So I use Gboard instead.
Dave@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
I’m using OpenBoard. I have many complaints, but finding ñ is not one of them.
Octopus1348@lemy.lol 11 months ago
I like Gboard because of its Hungarian layout, I have all the special letters like é and ö at my fingertips and I don’t have to long-press to type them.
loobkoob@kbin.social 11 months ago
My keyboard (Swiftkey) gets very excited about the possibilities when I start to hyphenate words to create compounds. It accepts that they exist, but it starts trying to throw all sorts of random suggestions in for what the second word could be (and it rarely gets the right word).
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
When you put it like that, it sounds very endearing 😄
How are you liking it otherwise? I’m looking for something that’s neither Gboard nor the Samsung one…
Fisk400@feddit.nu 11 months ago
When is it correct to use compound words in english? In Swedish you can do compound words for anything at will. In English “flagpole” is its own word but “dirt farmer” isn’t.
hperrin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There is no rule. It’s just chaos. The dictionaries can’t even agree.
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 11 months ago
All it is is whether a compound word is common enough.
It starts in speech when the words are repeated next to each other often enough they start being thought of as one word. But can’t be shortened.
If, in context, every time we said farmer we ended up saying dirt farmer. It would become compound. But in reality we’d just end up saying “farmer” when the context makes it clear. You’ll see this in writing about farming all the time, initially stating the type of farmer then just saying farmer.
Flag pole started out separately, but in some conversations it would become one object. Every time we talked about the flag pole it would be one word, flagpole. But saying just “pole” would be ambiguous. There are other poles around.
It trends towards shortness, if context allows us to drop a word altogether we will, if it doesn’t it gets compounded abbreviated.
No formal rule for this at all, but that’s the way it happens. People try to say things more efficiently without confusing meaning.
Pechente@feddit.de 11 months ago
Even more baffling, lots of keyboards don’t support this for German that has a bunch of compound words. Swiftkey (at least in the past) even split up compound words is German, thereby messing up correct grammar and replacing it with wrong grammar. It was infuriating.
girl@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Every few months I have to reset my dictionary. My phone will eventually decide that because I mostly use the words “hope” and “will” at the beginning of sentences, the correct spelling must be capitalized. Drives me nuts
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 11 months ago
Maybe it thinks you have two friends named Hope and Will
Octopus1348@lemy.lol 11 months ago
Turn off autocorrect. I hope that will help.
breakingcups@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Long press on the wrong suggestion usually gives you an option to delete it from the dictionary.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
True, but it’s not like lower-case “expanse” is an unusual word. Any decent dictionary would know this.
breakingcups@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s more that your phone has one accidentally registered you typing it capitalized and remembered it as a “name”, deleting that suggestion allows it to reverts to the non-capitalized version.
RalphFurley@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thanks to this thread I have discovered openboard.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I really wish that I could use it. I try to use open source as much as I can, but the way it uses backspace to undo autocorrect is a big problem for me.
I should look into some other FOSS keyboards, though.
Rootiest@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I really tried to like openboard but the way it hides the % key and the location of the / drove me back to gboard
hperrin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My phone does the opposite with lol. It refuses to capitalize it. lol.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I have a feeling mine did the same at one time. “The Expanse” was the topic of discussion in a discord server I’m in for a while, and I’m sure at that point I was forced to add the capitalized version so my phone would allow it. Instead of creating a separate entry so that both the capitalized and lower-case versions would be permitted, it must have “learned” that the word should always be capitalized, which is a mind-numbingly ineffectual way to do things.
I’ve now added “expanse” to the dictionary, so let’s see: You should watch “The Expanse.”
It works now, both ways! I know there are other perfectly normal words in keeps insisting are wrong though, and I’ll only be able to fix them in the moment when I’m trying to express myself quickly. Oh, it used to capitalize “express” every time too because I once texted a friend from inside an Express store. Absolutely bonkers.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Don’t even worry about it. It’s only two or three taps to close the dialog box ad confirm that you wanted to close the dialog box. And it never happens more than once per word, I think.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I think you’re missing the infuriating part. I deliberately expanded the dialog box to demonstrate that lower-case “expanse” did not exist in the dictionary. The dictionary had “learned” that “expanse” is solely a proper noun. That’s the mildly infuriating part.
infeeeee@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Last time I used autocorrect or whatever they call it nowadays was on a Siemens or SonyEricsson phone, and it was called T9.
On modern big screen phones I can type easily with my average size male thumbs. Is it a common problem nowadays, or is it just lazyness or it’s just quicker to type this way? On early 3-4" smartphones I can understand, but on today’s 6-7" screens?
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I can’t speak to anyone else’s experience, but the hit boxes on every keyboard I’ve ever tried have been absolute dogshit. In that previous sentence, I needed many corrections, and I fought with autocorrect deciding “tried” should be “tried.” My post is just one of many examples of autocorrect being wrong, but typing without autocorrect is worse.
I don’t know what to tell you. If anything, these keyboards have gotten worse for me, not better. The tinfoil hat part of me thinks I’m actually hitting the right spots, but the keyboard is trying to predict which letters I’ll type next.
There it was again – changing “but” to “buy .” It’s baffling to me how this is somehow much worse than the keyboard on my Motorola Droid from like 10 years ago.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Especially with swipe typing - the only times I find I’m typing in a whole word is if swipe typing repeatedly doesn’t get it (eg have when I’m trying to type gave), or when I’m typing a word that isn’t in the dictionary. That means the vast majority of the time autocorrect would kick in it would be unwelcome anyway
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
what does the checkmark do then
MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 11 months ago
u just turbed that stuff off i let me jeyvoard rip rawww
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your butchered comment made me chuckle
nixcamic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just install a different keyboard?
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Do you have a recommendation for one that’s better? I tried OpenBoard, but it’s even more infuriating to me.
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Gboard is especially bad at this. If a word could in any conceivable way be capitalized, it will capitalize it.
Infynis@midwest.social 11 months ago
Mine constantly pulls the bait and switch when I try to type “definitely”. On the third letter, it will momentarily recommend “definitely”, but after an instant, say, long enough to decide to tap the suggestion, it switches it to “Def”, and because I tapped the suggestion, I have to go back and delete the whole word and start over
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
That def sounds annoying
justJanne@startrek.website 11 months ago
With that, the Germans will have finally won /s
intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 months ago
How do they decide Which of the words to Capitalize? Are there words that are the same words with different capitalization and they’re different words?
grue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
AnySoftKeyboard (which I prefer over Gboard because privacy and Free Software) is even worse.
njordomir@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Soon the globalists will lay claim to every word and we’ll communicate with sentences composed 100% of proper noun brand-names owned by multinational corporations.
Rootiest@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It always capitalizes Internet for me