Heartily agree

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• Cheese_man@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No matter how hard you work, you’re probably going to get laid off anyway. So don’t sweat it.

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  • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’d be funny if this is just a Charlie in the mailroom incident and someone at Outlook found out they were getting fired.

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• WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Been a very long time since I worked in IT, but I’m pretty sure at least some mail servers are configured to give up the attempt to deliver sent emails after x number of attempts have failed. Not 100% on this since mail wasn’t my thing, but I seem to vaguely recall that. If I’m right, them the emails most certainly are going somewhere - the “undelivered” graveyard.

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  • domi@lemmy.secnd.me ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    The RFC recommends that it should be retried for 5 days. Which is also the default in most mail servers.

    However, many larger mail providers, including Microsoft, only do a single day before the mail bounces.

    I wonder if this experience makes them reconsider keeping to the RFC recommendation.

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    • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I find the idea of Microsoft even considering following an open standard to be laughable on the face of it.

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  • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You make it sound like that’s a bad thing 😅

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Microsoft overrode the 24 hour limit to 48 hours to give themselves more time.

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    • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But send side from outside MSFT isn’t in their control.

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  • garbagebagel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is marginally related but proton has a feature that tells when you when an email is still being retried, and when it gives up.

    That email is called something like delayed mail (still being retried), and for a long time, my dumbass thought it was some feature that was being retired and I was like wtf why have they taken months to retire this feature.

    Anyway, proton retries for 48 hrs as well.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Can’t smtp do multiple hops through multiple smtp servers or MX (mail exchanges)? In which case, how would the client know, beyond the first hop?

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• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Also, a good alternative is LibreOffice. Or Euro Office.

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Libreoffice has an email client?

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, for word/excel/powerpoint.

      For email clients you could go for Nextcloud, that’s a suite. Or Mailbox. Tuta’s good too but their UI might need improvement & their policies could be refined more.

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