Establishment Democrats think they know who is "electable". These are the same guys that saw this in 2016 and said yeah we want Hillary.

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• Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It wasn’t poll numbers that made the DNC pick Hillary. It was her pro-corporate, anti-worker, pro-Israel policies. Nobody gets on the ballot without those.

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  • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Being a former cabinet member to a president who previously polled well seems to be a popular quality to them as well. But you know, they think we’re fucking stupid.

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• rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Establishment=capitalist Zionists

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• desmosthenes@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  debbie wasserman schultz wanted hillary

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  • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ll never forgive Obama for not replacing her.

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• Cum_Rag@fedinsfw.app ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah we really should be anti electability, because the arguments include sexism and racism.

  The other issue with electability argument is that it’s too meta and circular. Candidate A can have a popular policy X that everyone wants, and candidate B can have policy Y that most people hate, but instead of picking a policy we want and everyone wants we ignore that and just say “this trait is electable because I say other people think it’s electable trait”.

  I rather people pick policies that candidates present instead of “I think this guy in the general will win”

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• kandoh@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The thing is, and we’ve seen this in 2020 and in the recent LA and NYC mayoral, and cali gubernatorial elections, is that black dem voters prefer the establishment option over the progressive one.

  Any progressive movement needs to do a lot better job of outreach than they’ve been doing for the last 10 years.

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  • eestileib@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re trying to run the Clyburn/Biden playbook in Michigan and losing badly.

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    • kandoh@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Another poll cited in mid‑July reporting showed Stevens at 67% vs. El‑Sayad at 21% among Black Democratic primary voters, while El‑Sayad led among white, college‑educated, and self‑identified democratic socialists

      We’re just out voting the black voters, not flipping them.

      If we want nation wide progressive success and a 2028 progressive presidential nominee then something will have to change.

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• Steve@communick.news ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just yesterday I saw a quite from an establishment Dem, saying the Republicans love the DSA candate because they think she’ll be easy to beat in the general.

  My first thought was But the Republicans are so wrong so often, that would make her the best bet.

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• K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Even those polls were skewed in Hillary’s favor by not including the 18-49 demographic

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sort of like when a bunch of mechanics handicap horse races.

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