This will depend on your state I believe
I say this as an ex-coder, but is it possible to ask for a paper ballot instead of using the stupid machines when voting?
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Skyrmir@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Last I knew, it might depend on your individual voting district too. Some places are still implementing over time.
Skyrmir@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One advantage of mail in voting, is that it always uses a paper ballot.
Not having a paper trail, is strongly being pushed by one party.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Where i voted, you can use a computer to “mark” your ballot. It then prints it out, with your selections visible. You thwn take it to another computer, and insert it inro a slot that scans the ballot. So even with the computer voting, there was a paper trail in this instance.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Where I vote, the machine prints out a paper ballot which is then scanned and counted before I leave.
mkwt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is the case in nearly every state in the USA that uses machines. The big exception is Louisiana.
homes@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Where I vote, you fill out a paper ballot, you then scan it into a machine, which then spits out a receipt showing that your ballot was scanned properly.
Patnou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t want that. I want the times where I got a fake ID to vote where it was pencil or pen on paper.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You may not want to confess to voter fraud on the Internet.
Steve@communick.news 3 weeks ago
It’s still pen on paper.
Just instead of hand count only, they scan first, then hand count if needed later.Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Then you're wasting their time and yours, as well as the effort to change anything. That's the funny thing about the "danger" of voter fraud, it rarely is a problem because of how little one vote alone has any power. Maybe a small local district that comes close to a tie. Not that your votes isn't important, but it's one drop in a bathtub of water. If no one votes, it's empty.
But they want you to think that it's the few people who may try this that's the problem so they can put in ID laws for other purposes, and to deflect attention from the efforts of mass manipulation of results or the disenfranchising of large demographics in strategic areas. That isn't done by the voters, but by those in control or who work for them.
Iunnrais@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
you also claimed to be a nurse then asked really basic questions about medicine
Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
[deleted]too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He’s also a nurse who asks a concerning number of medical questions.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Ah Jesus christ this comment made me go back and check which user had posted this. Why am I not surprised?
Patnou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I know what a server is. It’s the person at the restaurant who serves you food. I was more or less ask for people who don’'t really understand what it is and how they work. A lot of people think of them is a place where all data is stored (put conspiracy theory in here). And I ask questions to get dialogue going.
homes@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
twjolson@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My state is paper ballots and a tabulator that just counts the bubbles for each candidate, so everyone gets one. They have a computer based option for accessibility, but I believe that also prints ballots.
Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
I’ve always been offered one, usually as the default.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
boils down to it depends.
in my area, particularly we have paper ballots that then get read by the digital machines, so if there’s any type of question about the legitimacy of it, there’s the paper trail to follow.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 weeks ago
Where I vote machines aren’t allowed to be used in voting at all.
dihutenosa@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Where I vote, you plop your government-issued smartcard in your PC and cryptographically sign your vote. Of course, this raises a privacy concern.
It should ideally be impossible to determine who you voted for, or if you did, while still allowing you to verify your vote got counted. Last I checked, this was an active (and super interesting) area of research in cryptography.
Unleaded8163@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
I'm sure it depends where you are. I'm in Canada, where Federal and Provincial elections are paper only, which makes my paranoid coder heart very happy. You get a piece of paper with a names on it and you put an X next to the one you want to vote for.
hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We have paper ballots that get scanned by a machine for the count. That way there is always a paper ballot that can be hand counted if the machine count is ever in question.
einkorn@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Especially as an (ex-) coder you should ask for a paper ballot!
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As for whether or not that’s possible: Which location are we.talking about?