This will depend on your state I believe
I say this as an ex-coder, but is it possible to ask for a paper ballot instead of using the stupid machines when voting?
Submitted 5 days ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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cattywampas@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Skyrmir@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Last I knew, it might depend on your individual voting district too. Some places are still implementing over time.
Skyrmir@lemmy.world 5 days ago
One advantage of mail in voting, is that it always uses a paper ballot.
Not having a paper trail, is strongly being pushed by one party.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
Where i voted, you can use a computer to “mark” your ballot. It then prints it out, with your selections visible. You thwn take it to another computer, and insert it inro a slot that scans the ballot. So even with the computer voting, there was a paper trail in this instance.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Where I vote, the machine prints out a paper ballot which is then scanned and counted before I leave.
mkwt@lemmy.world 5 days ago
This is the case in nearly every state in the USA that uses machines. The big exception is Louisiana.
homes@piefed.world 5 days ago
Where I vote, you fill out a paper ballot, you then scan it into a machine, which then spits out a receipt showing that your ballot was scanned properly.
Patnou@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I don’t want that. I want the times where I got a fake ID to vote where it was pencil or pen on paper.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 days ago
You may not want to confess to voter fraud on the Internet.
Steve@communick.news 5 days ago
It’s still pen on paper.
Just instead of hand count only, they scan first, then hand count if needed later.Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 days ago
Then you're wasting their time and yours, as well as the effort to change anything. That's the funny thing about the "danger" of voter fraud, it rarely is a problem because of how little one vote alone has any power. Maybe a small local district that comes close to a tie. Not that your votes isn't important, but it's one drop in a bathtub of water. If no one votes, it's empty.
But they want you to think that it's the few people who may try this that's the problem so they can put in ID laws for other purposes, and to deflect attention from the efforts of mass manipulation of results or the disenfranchising of large demographics in strategic areas. That isn't done by the voters, but by those in control or who work for them.
Iunnrais@piefed.social 4 days ago
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 4 days ago
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 5 days ago
you also claimed to be a nurse then asked really basic questions about medicine
Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club 5 days ago
How are you an ex-coder but dont know what a server is?
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 5 days ago
He’s also a nurse who asks a concerning number of medical questions.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Ah Jesus christ this comment made me go back and check which user had posted this. Why am I not surprised?
Patnou@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I know what a server is. It’s the person at the restaurant who serves you food. I was more or less ask for people who don’'t really understand what it is and how they work. A lot of people think of them is a place where all data is stored (put conspiracy theory in here). And I ask questions to get dialogue going.
homes@piefed.world 5 days ago
twjolson@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
My state is paper ballots and a tabulator that just counts the bubbles for each candidate, so everyone gets one. They have a computer based option for accessibility, but I believe that also prints ballots.
Nemo@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
I’ve always been offered one, usually as the default.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
boils down to it depends.
in my area, particularly we have paper ballots that then get read by the digital machines, so if there’s any type of question about the legitimacy of it, there’s the paper trail to follow.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 days ago
Where I vote machines aren’t allowed to be used in voting at all.
dihutenosa@piefed.social 5 days ago
Where I vote, you plop your government-issued smartcard in your PC and cryptographically sign your vote. Of course, this raises a privacy concern.
It should ideally be impossible to determine who you voted for, or if you did, while still allowing you to verify your vote got counted. Last I checked, this was an active (and super interesting) area of research in cryptography.
Unleaded8163@fedia.io 5 days ago
I'm sure it depends where you are. I'm in Canada, where Federal and Provincial elections are paper only, which makes my paranoid coder heart very happy. You get a piece of paper with a names on it and you put an X next to the one you want to vote for.
BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 4 days ago
We have paper ballots that get scanned by a machine for the count. That way there is always a paper ballot that can be hand counted if the machine count is ever in question.
einkorn@feddit.org 5 days ago
Especially as an (ex-) coder you should ask for a paper ballot!
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As for whether or not that’s possible: Which location are we.talking about?